Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex.

[elleng]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=21&v=8y06NSBBRtY&feature=emb_logo

[sandensea]

1. Which, of course, makes him a big time RINO in eyes of most of today's Republicans

Never mind that Ike - though not without his faults - is the last GOP president to leave positive and significant accomplishments.

It's been downhill for the GOP since then - big time.

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3. He's also the last legitimately elected Republican president...

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except maybe Daddy Bush.

[sandensea]

5. Great point

The rest of them have all been elected either through dirty tricks or outright fraud.

1968: Kissinger's sabotage of the Paris peace talks
1972: Legitimate - but merely a re-election
1980: Daddy Bush and Bill Casey's 'October surprise' - the secret arrangement to have Iran hold the hostages until Jan. 20.
1984: Legitimate - re-election
1988: Legitimate - though marred by the Willy Horton ads
2000: Liver Lips and the Supreme Court one-off
2004: Blackbox Blackwell and the 'Ohio miracle'
2016: MI and WI votes electronically flipped like pancakes by way of hacked (Bush-era) tabulation machines

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6. Good list. The re-elections of illegitimately installed crooks don't count...

for me—Nixon and Reagan's second terms.

[sandensea]

9. True. Plus there was the matter of the '72 attempt on George Wallace

Cui bono? The only one who benefited was Nixon: Wallace would've run on a right-wing 3rd party ticket like in '68 (this almost cost Nixon the election).

And the Arthur Bremer story has a lot of loose ends: a n'er-do-well who somehow had the cash to follow Wallace from city to city, knew exactly where and when he'd be ahead of time (this was, of course, in the pre-internet age), etc.

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10. Very suspicious...Bremer's movements.

[sandensea]

12. History's mysteries.

Like so many such controversies, we'll probably never know.

We do, however, know Cheeto's trying to provoke a war because he thinks it'll save his re-election chances. No grassy knoll/911 mystery there.

[Mike Nelson]

2. he should know...

... we've pretty much been at War since the end of WWII. I think War is probably our biggest business.

[tirebiter]

4. Eisenhower built the military industrial complex

It was a sideswipe against JFK who was running on a nonexistent missile gap. Ike did not like Nixon so he kept his criticism indirect.

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8. Not really. See the Republican platform from 1956.

It reads like something Dems of today would champion. Of course today's repug are threats to humankind and the planet.

1. Provide federal assistance to low-income communities;
2. Protect Social Security;
3. Provide asylum for refugees;
4. Extend minimum wage;
5. Improve unemployment benefit system so it covers more people;
6. Strengthen labor laws so workers can more easily join a union;
7. Assure equal pay for equal work regardless of sex.

[tirebiter]

11. What does that have to do with the issue at hand.

the MIC provide contracts that provide jobs, but I see nothing in that platform that calls for decreased military spending.

[Submariner]

7. Iran was overthrown in a U.S. led coup just months after Eisenhower's inauguration

Although an American icon, he was more of a warrior than a president.

He may have golfed as much as Trump. As a little kid I recall always seeing him golfing on TV or in newspaper photos.

[2naSalit]

13. K&R