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HBO 'Succession' producer warns the GOP about the end of Trump's 'cult': 'There's going to be a reck (Original Post) turbinetree Jan 2020 OP
Excellent discussion.... Upthevibe Jan 2020 #1
And too short matt819 Jan 2020 #2
I hope he's right as well NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #9
Should we start a Pessimists Anonymous group? matt819 Jan 2020 #10
I disagree that "everything will come out" Skittles Jan 2020 #3
Yes, if we make it long enough sab390 Jan 2020 #15
K&R burrowowl Jan 2020 #4
I cannot but only hope. rusty quoin Jan 2020 #5
The full LONG article available here underpants Jan 2020 #6
I've said it myself many times: Cults always end badly. nt Binkie The Clown Jan 2020 #7
Sounds so naive. zentrum Jan 2020 #8
We're still waiting amcgrath Jan 2020 #11
how could people be so blind dump_trump_now Jan 2020 #12
HBO 'Succession' producer warns the GOP about the end of Trump's 'cult': 'There's going to be a reck Keira21 Jan 2020 #13
welcome to DU gopiscrap Jan 2020 #14

matt819

(10,749 posts)
2. And too short
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 01:05 AM
Jan 2020

Frank Rich’s piece in ny mag is a great read. I hope he’s right. I think he will be proven right but it will take decades for everything to come out.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
9. I hope he's right as well
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 03:39 PM
Jan 2020

I'm not that confident, but I'm generally a pessimist.

Because of Barr, I would hope that a new Democratic president and fully Democratic Congress can re-institute the Independent Prosecutor law like they had with Watergate and Iran Contra and have them look at all the crimes of Trump and everybody close to him - Pence, Mnuchin, Barr, Pompeo, DeVos, Prince, Ross, Carson, Giuliani, etc

no more letting people off the hook to move on and put the past behind us -

Glenn Kirschner called it the Trump Crimes Commission

matt819

(10,749 posts)
10. Should we start a Pessimists Anonymous group?
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 04:09 PM
Jan 2020

I'm also a pessimist. Have been for decades. Damn glass is always fucking half empty. Or completely empty. And most of the time the glass is gone. Someone took it. Probably a republican. I used to be mostly positive, if not always optimistic. Hey, things change.

My son is even more pessimistic than I am, so he's really a downer to talk to.

The next Democratic president better look back. Hell, the next Democratic president should create an entirely new government agency tasked with looking back. And they should turn over every rock, issue subpoenas every day, and jail people who don't show up. And those found to have done wrong should be shamed to the extent that even fox won't have them on as commentators.

Skittles

(153,147 posts)
3. I disagree that "everything will come out"
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 03:13 AM
Jan 2020

it certainly has not with the BUSH INC warmongering bastards

sab390

(183 posts)
15. Yes, if we make it long enough
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 07:51 PM
Jan 2020

We've found out, just recently, that Nixon collided with the North Vietnamese to slow walk the peace talks. We found out that St Ronnie talked to the Iranians about holding the hostages until after the elections.. The big problem is that it has come out nothing has changed. When can we get this into the history books and the highschool class rooms. George II lied, got caught, and nothing happened. Knowing is not enough. We have to find some way of getting into the public consciousness.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
8. Sounds so naive.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 03:03 PM
Jan 2020

When this cult goes it will take a generation with it. Maybe the planet.Our economy. And a billion species.It's a genie too destructive to be put back in the bottle, even if it ends.

amcgrath

(397 posts)
11. We're still waiting
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 11:41 PM
Jan 2020

For the paperwork on Kennedy to be released - coincidentally, something that Trump promised he would do, but then withheld a bunch of it.

There are some secrets which neither side will ever make public, because if the American people new, they would simply lose faith in the entire structure of American government, and the law.

Keira21

(2 posts)
13. HBO 'Succession' producer warns the GOP about the end of Trump's 'cult': 'There's going to be a reck
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 06:19 AM
Jan 2020

Last edited Mon Jan 13, 2020, 02:16 AM - Edit history (1)

Straight to the point Rich's piece in ny mag is an extraordinary perused. I trust he's correct. I figure he will be legitimized however it will take a long time for everything to turn out.
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