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Just because .... "coldest winter in almost fourteen years" (Original Post) Botany Feb 2020 OP
Love the song... 2naSalit Feb 2020 #1
Love them both. Arkansas Granny Feb 2020 #2
Guess it was long about 30 years ago, now. Used to be a donut/coffee shop across the street. 3Hotdogs Feb 2020 #3
His voice is cool in a rock and roll way Ahpook Feb 2020 #5
I am sure that 2naSalit Feb 2020 #6
Ohh odd Ahpook Feb 2020 #7
That's interesting. 2naSalit Feb 2020 #8
Super nice Ahpook Feb 2020 #12
i had to take 2naSalit Feb 2020 #13
His one popular song interested me Ahpook Feb 2020 #14
Yeah, that movie was 2naSalit Feb 2020 #15
Cool. I am a music nerd and did some more reading Ahpook Feb 2020 #16
There's usually a format to any nameable music 2naSalit Feb 2020 #17
Interesting Ahpook Feb 2020 #18
Wow, I like it. 2naSalit Feb 2020 #19
yes Ahpook Feb 2020 #20
What an utterly charming pre-debate respite! n/t ariadne0614 Feb 2020 #4
LOVE this version, BUT where's the goddam mandolins? Capn Sunshine Feb 2020 #9
2:04 Botany Feb 2020 #10
Good song! kentuck Feb 2020 #11

3Hotdogs

(12,330 posts)
3. Guess it was long about 30 years ago, now. Used to be a donut/coffee shop across the street.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 08:37 PM
Feb 2020

Characters that came in there --- one customer sent a post card from vacation, addressed to the Heaven Donut Shop, Arlene, Joe, all the wait staff and the customers: "the great and the near great."

So one day, the radio is on a bit loud. In comes a woman "of a certain age."

Woman: "What is that playing? It's too loud, Can't you turn it lower? Who is that singing, anyway?"

Waitress: "That's Rod Stewart."

Woman: "I like Rod Stewart."


Conversation over.

Ahpook

(2,749 posts)
5. His voice is cool in a rock and roll way
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 11:01 PM
Feb 2020

Has a rasp, but equally melodic. Reminds me of Janis Joplin and many others.

Always liked that voice for rock n roll

2naSalit

(86,330 posts)
6. I am sure that
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 11:09 PM
Feb 2020

his sound appeals to many and I like the type of music he did in his early years (Yardbirds, etc).. and he wasn't too awful then but he reminds me of Kim Carnes and the like. I sing, professionally, I can't imagine making my vocal apparatus do that. I don't want to be offensive. I really appreciate the musicianship in the whole production, I just don't care for the vocalist's sound.

Ahpook

(2,749 posts)
7. Ohh odd
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:47 AM
Feb 2020

Kim Carnes was just played on XM. Betty Davis Eyes

I take it as it is needed. Lemmy said it best! Someone asked him about him being worried about his voice as he aged. He laughed

It fits the bill

2naSalit

(86,330 posts)
8. That's interesting.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:11 AM
Feb 2020

A long time ago I was talking to some younger students in a class I taught and we discovered we were all musicians and played in classical ensembles. The discussion went to an unusual work by Prokofiev, Alexander Nevsky, and on my way home from that encounter as soon as I got into my car, my favorite movement from that work* was on the radio!

It was totally a Twilight Zone event.


*Battle on the Ice
; from the movie which which was awful and I saw decades before I ever performed the piece.

The story is a mix of ancient, 15th century Russian/German conflict in Russian territory but also something of a parable concerning more contemporary wars.




The entire movement, better version:





Merely for those who might be interested.

Ahpook

(2,749 posts)
12. Super nice
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 11:07 PM
Feb 2020

Thank you for the vids!

I am admittedly not very versed in classical music. I listen to anything and everything, but never know the composers or artists. I put on something and let it go.

I know quite a bit of Bach and Chopin, but Ravel seems to peak my interest quite a bit. He seems kind of... off ? I can't describe it.

2naSalit

(86,330 posts)
13. i had to take
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 11:16 PM
Feb 2020

something to maintain my sanity while in college so I took a pile of one credit music classes, got all As... which was the point. But I did want to learn more about the history and become familiar with more classical type music. I was taught quite a bit about it in my early school years and started performing then. But there was a long hiatus where I was seemingly in another world. It was nice to relearn some things and discover much more as a middle aged adult. Plus I gained a whole lot of notes in my lower range then, it was nice to be performing when that happened. It's fun to learn about the works to be performed while learning them to perform them... hard to explain.

Ravel is interesting to say the least but I really like his music, there's an edge to it.

Ahpook

(2,749 posts)
14. His one popular song interested me
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 11:33 PM
Feb 2020

And started listening to all of his compositions.





That stupid movie in the 70's ruined it I never watched until recently because of all the backlash from listening to Ravel.

2naSalit

(86,330 posts)
15. Yeah, that movie was
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:04 AM
Feb 2020

pretty ruinous of a lot of things.

Funny thing about this piece, it is said that Ravel didn't really care all that much for it. Said he had written the perfect orchestral piece, unfortunately it doesn't have any music in it... or something to that effect.

He wrote strange stuff but it's well worth listening to or watching an orchestra play it.

Ahpook

(2,749 posts)
16. Cool. I am a music nerd and did some more reading
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 08:17 PM
Feb 2020

In your interpretation, what is meant by "Ravel had long toyed with the idea of building a composition from a single theme which would grow simply through harmonic and instrumental ingenuity."

I've written many songs and that describes the process that I have always used. Stick to a theme and grow the idea into verse, chorus, perhaps crescendo and an outro. I might be missing what the author is trying to convey?

That is a fairly standard approach to writing music, correct?

2naSalit

(86,330 posts)
17. There's usually a format to any nameable music
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 08:29 PM
Feb 2020

he was obsessed with the musicality of the end product as in containing musically interesting motifs and the interweaving of themes in clever yet pleasant to hear ways. What I think he meant in that statement was that he had written what is more a mechanical exercise in repetition to the point that it wasn't really melodic or all that clever but the mathematical register was right on.

It's a 50/50 for me, I have to be in the mood to listen to it.

Ahpook

(2,749 posts)
18. Interesting
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 08:50 PM
Feb 2020

Thank you

This is again interesting because I have been through the hell of theory courses. The instructor used, for me anyway, color and mathematics as a relative tool.

Which brings this old cartoon to light for me. The tail, the endless tail....Again, Ravel, but the cartoon speaks volumes to me now.

Thank you again

2naSalit

(86,330 posts)
19. Wow, I like it.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:02 PM
Feb 2020

I like foreign cartoons, especially older toons. It sort of added an air of M. C. Escher to the whole piece.

Ahpook

(2,749 posts)
20. yes
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:05 AM
Feb 2020

i never thought of color or math before that instructor.

Color is a way to portray feelings. And it is true?

On edit: I remember when it clicked with me about color. Bend or love a note until it turns a certain color. Hard to describe

Didn't mean to hijack the original thread

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