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Carlos Maza: What the Hell is "Too Far Left" (Original Post) nilram Feb 2020 OP
The two most left candidates are millionaires. lynintenn Feb 2020 #1
How many long term Senators are not millionaires? The Wielding Truth Feb 2020 #5
Wealth can change your viewpoint. nilram Feb 2020 #9
Millionaire is not what it used to be 50 years ago. Few people worth a million feel wealthy Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #14
Well. He's not afraid of Socialism. If we honor the Constitution we cannot be totally Socialist. The Wielding Truth Feb 2020 #2
Not sure I get the premise. How does the constitution prevent socialism? nilram Feb 2020 #11
You get it. That is my point. The Wielding Truth Feb 2020 #22
So "If we honor the Constitution we cannot be totally Socialist." nilram Feb 2020 #23
I think that our governmental system and ecomonic system are 2 different things. rwsanders Feb 2020 #12
That is really, really good! nt Phoenix61 Feb 2020 #3
His last name is Maza not Martin. nt Phoenix61 Feb 2020 #4
Thanks. Corrected. nt nilram Feb 2020 #8
take a televised media vacation lambchopp59 Feb 2020 #6
Echo that. I haven't owned a teeve, ever. nt nilram Feb 2020 #7
K&R Excellent posting. alwaysinasnit Feb 2020 #10
K and R. Excellent! Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #13
Should be viewed by many! KSNY Feb 2020 #15
The far left and right converge in Totalitarianism. gembaby1 Feb 2020 #16
In the schema of global politics, you are correct . . . markpkessinger Feb 2020 #17
Good video, thanks! burrowowl Feb 2020 #18
Why are no pundits worried about going "too far to the Right"? Lol appalachiablue Feb 2020 #19
Because the self censored, corporate media is already there and they like it. Magoo48 Feb 2020 #20
He said it... zanana1 Feb 2020 #21

nilram

(2,886 posts)
9. Wealth can change your viewpoint.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:20 PM
Feb 2020

The point of the video is that media companies only hire those who reflect the company bias. They probably wouldn't hire Warren Buffet, who thinks he should have a higher tax rate than his secretary, if he was a media figure. Or Noam Chomsky, who has probably made a mint from his books (dunno). I don't think wealth necessarily changes a person's viewpoint, though, or necessarily changes it entirely. Although he's critical that Rachel Maddow doesn't talk about media bias, she does speak positively about subjects that are against the traditional corporate interests.

Quixote1818

(28,918 posts)
14. Millionaire is not what it used to be 50 years ago. Few people worth a million feel wealthy
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:22 PM
Feb 2020

these days. And quite a few people near retirement who have been good at saving money get to this point by the time they are 80. However, they don't often have much access to that money since it is in the stock market. They are only getting a bit of it at a time. I am sure they feel secure but they can't get to crazy spending it or they can go through that much pretty fast.


https://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-money-it-takes-to-be-wealthy-2019-8

The Wielding Truth

(11,411 posts)
2. Well. He's not afraid of Socialism. If we honor the Constitution we cannot be totally Socialist.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 03:22 PM
Feb 2020

What do you think? Can we lean a lot more to the left and correct the Trump corruption?

nilram

(2,886 posts)
11. Not sure I get the premise. How does the constitution prevent socialism?
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:27 PM
Feb 2020

We already take shared responsibility for roads, armies, museums, schools, medical research (though not enough, imo), transportation. We subsidize flood insurance, farmers, small businesses (with $), large businesses (with $$$). Guess I don't know what you mean by "total socialism". I just want to be more like Denmark, without the cold and the fermented fish.

rwsanders

(2,594 posts)
12. I think that our governmental system and ecomonic system are 2 different things.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 05:50 PM
Feb 2020

We could have socialism and not violate the constitution (at least a social democracy like Europe). This is probably closer to the original intent than our current system. Our nation wasn't just a rebellion against the British government, but against their support of early multi-national corporations.
To me the one economic system that isn't separate from the government is fascism. And we romping well down that path. That is why a moderate that is just going to maintain the status quo won't fix anything. They won't bring us back up that path. They'll maintain current conditions until the public gets angry again and elects another lunatic that will take us further to the right. This cycle has already repeated ad nauseum.

This is a great summary of corporate influence:

https://vault.sierraclub.org/sierra/200509/corporation.asp

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
6. take a televised media vacation
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:05 PM
Feb 2020

And discover what, if you are a TV consumer, you've been numbed to.
I killed my television in 1979, telly vision services have only been revived briefly in my household for holiday guests, then discontinued.
Useless, annoying and idiotic device.
Which at one time, for a brief period started showing some glimmers of providing informative content.
That died out in favor of crap like Goo Goo the Honey Boo Boo.
Exposure briefly to history channel had some interesting and informative programs.
In a line up of hundreds of selections of crap. Inane, whining, pretentious, overdramatized, idiotic crap.


gembaby1

(253 posts)
16. The far left and right converge in Totalitarianism.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 01:03 AM
Feb 2020

Ask Hitler (Nazi fascism)

and

Ask Stalin (Bolshevist Communism)

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
17. In the schema of global politics, you are correct . . .
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:53 PM
Feb 2020

. . . but that theory doesn't apply in a country where what is deemed to be "far left" is what the rest of the world defines as "center right."

zanana1

(6,103 posts)
21. He said it...
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 01:15 PM
Feb 2020

"corporate interests". The media is afraid of Bernie. Trump is so far right, he makes the "center"look like socialism.

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