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Tue May 12, 2020, 04:03 AM

This is One Hard Hitting Biden Ad!

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Reply This is One Hard Hitting Biden Ad! (Original post)
tecelote May 2020 OP
C_U_L8R May 2020 #1
Laf.La.Dem. May 2020 #2
yuiyoshida May 2020 #3
tecelote May 2020 #4
yuiyoshida May 2020 #5
pansypoo53219 May 2020 #6
oldsoftie May 2020 #10
jaxexpat May 2020 #12
OldManTarHeel May 2020 #7
Joinfortmill May 2020 #8
janterry May 2020 #9
oldsoftie May 2020 #11
jaxexpat May 2020 #13
janterry May 2020 #14
jaxexpat May 2020 #15
janterry May 2020 #16
jaxexpat May 2020 #18
CTyankee May 2020 #17
clutterbox1830 May 2020 #19
Stuart G May 2020 #20
GaYellowDawg May 2020 #21

Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 04:19 AM

1. Failure to lead.

The truth destroys Trump.

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 05:38 AM

2. Love it!!

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 06:11 AM

3. K AND R and

Tweeted.

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #3)

Tue May 12, 2020, 06:21 AM

4. I think my favorite Biden campaign statement yet is the last one in this video.

Donald Trump didn't build a great economy. His failure to lead destroyed one.

That's the message!

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Response to tecelote (Reply #4)

Tue May 12, 2020, 06:23 AM

5. he has done worse than that...

He's allowed Americans to die while he was busy playing golf. I hope he DIES from this shit, TBH.

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 06:29 AM

6. this is hillary's playbook. HOW is biden going to CHANGE shit when he wins.

HOPE + CHANGE! not point at dipshit.

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Response to pansypoo53219 (Reply #6)

Tue May 12, 2020, 06:58 AM

10. You can do both. "Dipshit" NEEDS to be called out & exposed.

Many people dont pay attention to things like DUers do. Or Trump minions. Negative ads work, whether they should or not.

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Response to pansypoo53219 (Reply #6)

Tue May 12, 2020, 07:21 AM

12. "this is hillary's playbook." hasn't been a relevant reference for a while.

If it ever was at any time.

You ask what Biden's plan is. Do what? How he's going to "change shit". The answer to that is as simple as a google search.

The republican talking points that you echo deserve the tag-line, "this is trump's playbook". At least that acknowledges the author.

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 06:36 AM

7. Extremely powerful and Spot On . .

Very well done . . need more like this one.

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 06:43 AM

8. Wounded with his own words

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 06:55 AM

9. I'm not so sure

To be clear - I hope they are effective with voters. I'm sure that they have been piloted with a target audience. So, someone has signed off and sees them as effective.

But, (and just putting this out there)

to me they sound over dramatic and over produced.

The message is fine (obviously). But I wish there were more of a normal convo advertisement. Just someone relating that same timeline without the deep voice and drama. Non-movie like, if you will.


Of course, this is just my opinion - and I hope I'm a big outlier.

I want all democratic ads to help sway those in the middle (and, if possible, those on the right)

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Response to janterry (Reply #9)

Tue May 12, 2020, 07:01 AM

11. I see what you're saying. Because the RW will post clips of Dems saying "dont worry"

There are plenty of them out there "go to the parade!" etc.
The difference that needs to be pointed out is that most of those Democratic leaders were getting their info FROM THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION

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Response to janterry (Reply #9)

Tue May 12, 2020, 07:43 AM

13. Dammit. "Reality TV" is what most Americans watch and "learn " from.

DWTS, AGT, Comic Heros, etc. This cheap, lowbrow, minimally stimulating entertainment is what American society craves, apparently. The dumbing down of America has been the single most successful educational effort since the 3-R's.

Most voters ONLY pull their eyes from their smart phones long enough to refocus if it's dramatic, pornographic or screechingly heinous. They're NOT even going to show up at the polls unless they feel their life is threatened or they sincerely believe the situation for their personal interests is operable. Otherwise they will forget what they thought, vaguely noticed or recalled, on some past date.

Hit the populace with all the ACCURATE drama possible from every possible media continually until they have voted and hope to hell (or heaven) the GOP hasn't out-staged us again.

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Response to jaxexpat (Reply #13)

Tue May 12, 2020, 08:33 AM

14. I wonder how these pilot with different age demographics

I'd be interested to see the research

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Response to janterry (Reply #14)

Tue May 12, 2020, 09:19 AM

15. They should go out in Klingon as well.

Wouldn't want to miss the 'single males 58-59' demographic.

Seriously, I expect that "personalities, of any age" is the ideal standard to discern absorption susceptibility. Targeting based on purchasing history. Or maybe astrology. But people can always make a living interpreting polls. It's probably the ideal occupation for nitpicking Virgos with Volvos.

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Response to jaxexpat (Reply #15)

Tue May 12, 2020, 09:45 AM

16. I don't know

I turn this kind of thing off. Even with candidates that I like.

I just asked some of my friends on another page (all liberal)
and they groaned (all younger).

I'm sure this is effective for many, though

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Response to janterry (Reply #16)

Tue May 12, 2020, 10:40 AM

18. Interesting. I wonder, are these friends already informed of the issues dwelled on by the ad?

If yes, It's pretty common for enlightened folks to prefer new and nuanced data. I propose that only enlightened people should have the right, nay, obligation, to elect our government. Informed voters all, would make Jefferson proud. But, to paraphrase Lincoln, "you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool them into believing 10% of the people know more than the majority do".
You know, it would be cheaper and less confusing to simply set aside a day when every eligible voter is required to cast their ballots instead of racing off to work per usual.
Say you didn't vote on your government sponsored holiday? $50.00 dollar fine, gimme.
But, sadly, most voters don't vote at all and many that do are so misinformed they shouldn't. So it's the adman game. Whoever gets out the most suckers to buy into their scheme wins. I groan as well. And it would be a sad epithet that, "so many didn't vote their own interests because the ads, though true, were so patently droll".

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Response to janterry (Reply #9)

Tue May 12, 2020, 10:37 AM

17. Some people are in denial. They have to have a good smack and this does it.

I know. I was in denial over my hair cut. I'm not now. I feel like I've had a bucket of ice water thrown at me. It finally sank in.

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 10:50 AM

19. I'll be honest, I don't care for it.

In the beginning, I know where they going at in trying to dismantle Trump's campaign argument to blame China entirely for pandemic/response and link with to China, but in a way it confirms Trump's argument that China is solely responsible. I'm afraid this ad may lead to more xenophobia. I think would be better to show how much Trump spend playing golf or going to campaign rally than preparing for this crisis.

Also, this ad is too long and people have short attention spans. That is why the Lincoln project ads are more effective. Honestly, Bloomberg's attack ads were better too.


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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 01:26 PM

20. More ads the better, all say the same, " Trump is responsible"

And that is the total truth. 10 seconds or 2 minutes..."Trump is responsible"..

And that is the total truth ..."There was a warning, and Trump did nothing."

I seem to have heard this story somewhere before? ...

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 04:30 PM

21. I think it's fucking fantastic.

I think the narration and the music are absolutely appropriate. Is is alarmist? Yes! Should it be? FUCK, YES! I mean, what the hell, people? I ran some numbers and posted this on Twitter yesterday:

The ten bloodiest battles of the Civil War - Gettysburg, Spotsylvania, Chickamauga, Battle of the Wilderness, Antietam, Shiloh, Chancelorsville, Second Bull Run, Stones River, and Fredericksburg - resulted in a total of 37,122 deaths over 38 total days of fighting. Rounded to the nearest whole number, 977 deaths per day.

Since the first recorded death on March 14, 58 days have passed, with 81,377 deaths. 1,403 per day. 144% of the average daily death rate of the ten bloodiest battles of the Civil War.


I mean, what kind of ad do you expect in response to this kind of crisis? Sunshine, flowers, and butterflies? Maybe you'd like to have someone doing their best Bob Ross impression? Biden's ads have to be attention-grabbing, emphatic, and powerful. Nothing else has a chance to pop people out of their bubbles. It amazes me how inept that so many Democratic voters are at politics.

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