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So asshole you want to experiment on us with a drug which could be unsafe or unreliable....FUCK YOU (Original Post) turbinetree May 2020 OP
"might not prove to be SAFE and effective" lapfog_1 May 2020 #1
And to top it all off he is suppose to be protecting the public................ turbinetree May 2020 #2
I don't think I'll get a vaccine until we have a new administration. blueinredohio May 2020 #3
We had better get out and vote............. turbinetree May 2020 #4
I keep preaching that to grandkids, nieces, nephews and anyone who will listen. blueinredohio May 2020 #5
I won't Rebl2 May 2020 #6
No needles unless the Science says its safe ; NOT trump. magicguido May 2020 #7
What does he mean by "they might not pan out; they might not prove to be safe & effective..."? Red Pest May 2020 #8
Sounds Nazi-like Blue Owl May 2020 #9

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
1. "might not prove to be SAFE and effective"
Sun May 17, 2020, 12:22 PM
May 2020

oh just fuck the fuck off asshole.

you first!

How about we wait long enough to prove the vaccine is safe... and effective... before giving it to millions of us.

Rebl2

(13,501 posts)
6. I won't
Sun May 17, 2020, 01:08 PM
May 2020

be getting this vaccine until it is proven safe and effective. I am not an anti-vaxer, but I think a rush to get this out there is a recipe for disaster.

Red Pest

(288 posts)
8. What does he mean by "they might not pan out; they might not prove to be safe & effective..."?
Sun May 17, 2020, 01:19 PM
May 2020

Why would anyone take a vaccine that is not safe & effective? Does he mean that the vaccine candidates being developed might not be safe & effective, but they will be distributed anyway? Does he mean that even if they don't work production infrastructure will be up and running?

If the former, then it is a potential public health disaster. If it is the latter, there is still a problem as there are several very different strategies being pursued that are likely to use somewhat different production facilities. There is the mRNA vaccine approach (Moderna), there is the DNA vaccine approach (Inovio), there is the recombinant adenovirus vaccine approach (Oxford University/Jenner Institiute), and I would assume that there are purified protein subunit approaches using purified recombinant Spike (S) protein. Each approach has certain advantages and disadvantages, but mass production of each will use somewhat different setups.

One other thing that Azar did not address - production of vaccine vials and rubber stoppers. It is my understanding that these little things can really affect distribution. The glass vials are made from a very particular grade of sand and the stoppers are made of a particular silicone rubber. Both are in short supply. Has this been addressed?

This kind of presentation is exactly why one should actually have vaccine experts familiar with all aspects of vaccine research and development present this information. Instead we get Trump sycophants and toadies or worse Trump himself trying to pass this "information" to the American people. These guys just step on their own dicks when they try to tell us what is happening.

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