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Pastor John Pavlovitz details the 5 reasons white evangelicals worship Trump (Original Post) egbertowillies May 2020 OP
To me... Newest Reality May 2020 #1
Many church leaders turned against Jimmy Carter... Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #2
Amazing how much that map has changed in my lifetime. bottomofthehill May 2020 #3
Yeah, the changes have been dramatic. Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #4
It makes sense in this way too. Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #5

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
1. To me...
Mon May 18, 2020, 09:37 PM
May 2020

Basically, that's just Fascism. It is carrying a cross and wrapped in a flag, (or wrapped around it).

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
2. Many church leaders turned against Jimmy Carter...
Mon May 18, 2020, 09:44 PM
May 2020

... after he proposed taxing them for various reasons.

Carter had a lot of religious support until that happened.

Here's the 1976 electoral college map (Carter winning the blue states):

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
3. Amazing how much that map has changed in my lifetime.
Mon May 18, 2020, 10:07 PM
May 2020

CT, NJ, the whole west coast, mid west IL and Michigan, And the Blue states, the South.....

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
4. Yeah, the changes have been dramatic.
Mon May 18, 2020, 10:20 PM
May 2020

It seems unbelievable now that Southern states like Alabama and Mississippi voted for a Democratic candidate, a decade after the Civil Rights movement of the 60's which is often used to explain the switch of political affiliations.

It was also after Roe v. Wade, which most religious groups ignored back then except the Catholics.

My former boss (here in Ohio) was a white evangelical Christian, and he told me that he used to like the Democrats until they "lost their way". He didn't explain it further when I asked what he meant.

I later looked up his voter registration records, and he didn't even register to vote until 1980 (as a Republican). He was old enough to vote much sooner, though.

Anyway, I tend to agree that much of the trouble with white evangelicals started after their leaders told them to support the Republicans... and it had roots over taxation.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
5. It makes sense in this way too.
Mon May 18, 2020, 10:46 PM
May 2020

There's a lot of overlap between evangelicals and the "right-wing authoritarian" personality trait -- submission to authority.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_authoritarianism#Attitudes

So they will tend to follow their church leaders, the "ultimate authorities" in their minds because they deal with lofty fantasies such as eternal life.

It's indeed the church leaders causing a lot of these problems imo.

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