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I get the racism underlying it but it didn't spread and persist without someone with another agenda helping things along.
There is a cash pipeline from Koch's back door by way of 3rd party cutouts to the Bundys and the other racist militia heads. Much the same method has been used to support the denial of global warming. It seems to me that a similar relationship might be advancing the anti-vax opinion as part of a larger destabilizing agenda. Has anyone been asking Vladimir about that idea? Or maybe Rupert Murdoch?
Locrian
(4,522 posts)That's my guess. Very easy to just make stuff up and create chaos - great return on your investment if you're a rich authoritarian or Russia
Collimator
(1,639 posts). . . then they will die in greater numbers from preventable diseases proving their superiority and thus taking over the world as they believe they should.
Just wanted to make sure that I got their logic straight.
Upthevibe
(8,046 posts)She articulates perfectly.
There is SO much more that I've discovered in addition to this because I have a friend who's a conspiracy theorist. After she told me some of what she believes is going on, I went down a rabbit hole and OMG! People REALLY believe this. I'm glad that a lot of it's being exposed (there are quite a few Alex Jones' out there). Also, I'm comforted that many people like my friend don't vote (and I DON'T want her to f'in' vote!) and the ones that are into this are in the dt cult anyway. But I feel compelled to bring some of this up so folks have an idea: QAnon:
QAnon[a] (/kjuːəˈnɒn/) is a far-right conspiracy theory detailing a supposed secret plot by an alleged "deep state" against U.S. President Donald Trump and his supporters. The theory began with an October 2017 post on the anonymous imageboard 4chan by someone using the name Q, a presumably American individual, but probably later a group of people, claiming to have access to classified information involving the Trump administration and its opponents in the United States. Q has falsely accused many liberal Hollywood actors, Democratic politicians, and high-ranking officials of engaging in an international child sex trafficking ring, and has claimed that Donald Trump feigned collusion with Russians in order to enlist Robert Mueller to join him in exposing the ring and preventing a coup d'état by Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and George Soros. "Q" is a reference to the Q clearance used by the Department of Energy. QAnon believers commonly tag their social media posts with the hashtag #WWG1WGA, signifying the motto "where we go one, we go all."
I'm also going to post a link to an article from The Atlantic (It's lengthy but I think VERY important):
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/06/qanon-nothing-can-stop-what-is-coming/610567/
And then I came across this just a couple of days ago:
The Republican candidate (Jo Rae Perkins) in Oregon's Senate race this year:
Oregon Republican US Senate Nominee Defends Her Interest In QAnon
by Jeff Mapes Follow OPB May 22, 2020 6:45 a.m. | Updated: May 22, 2020 10:06 a.m. | Portland, Ore.
https://www.opb.org/news/article/jo-rae-perkins-qanon-oregon-republican-senate-nominee/
plimsoll
(1,668 posts)Q is also used by biblical scholars to denote a specific source shared in Mathew and Luke. It's from the german "quelle" meaning source. It always seemed way more likely to be a religious extremist trying to be clever.
OverBurn
(950 posts)cp
(6,628 posts)Thank you for posting this.
kellytore
(182 posts)I was running for a State House seat in Georgia, and I was invited to a meeting about the dangers of vaccines. I went out of curiosity just to see how anyone could be against vaccinations. There were around 200 people in the room, and they were all white and Trump supporters. I can't remember all of the garbage the different speakers were putting out, but I did mingle and speak to a few of the attendees. They told me that the minimum wage should be abolished because it was racist, and the Civil Rights Act was only passed to control the freedoms of private business. I made the connection that night that the anti-vaxxers were really just white supremacist who were using a different agenda to attract new members.