"The Tesla Conspiracy" In Depth

[OxQQme]

[brush]

1. Range?

[OxQQme]

2. Portland to Seattle and back non-stop, fully charged.

And there are three Superchargers in between if you left without a full charge.

https://www.solarreviews.com/blog/how-much-does-it-cost-to-charge-a-tesla-is-it-the-same-as-the-cost-to-charge-other-electric-vehicles

>"The cost of charging a Tesla Model X depends on whether you are using the free charging offered for this model at the Tesla supercharger stations or another charging station. It also depends on the size of battery pack that you purchased with the car and whether you are fully charging the battery from flat.

The Tesla Model X can be purchased with battery packs of different capacities between 60 to 100 kilowatt hours (kWh).

Let’s assume you own the Model X performance version with a 100 kWh battery and you pay the national average cost for power across the United States of 13 cents per kWh. Let's also allow for a charging efficiency of 85% — that's the usual efficiency for standard (Level 2) home charging stations, according to research studies.

Based on the above, it will cost $15.29 for a full charge. Given this car has a range of 305 miles, the cost per mile is 5 cents, or $5 per 100 miles driven. <

fyi, I don't own one, but would if I could.
I'm 79 years old, on Social Security only, and have owned dozens of gas/ice cars starting when I was 16.

[Miguelito Loveless]

3. I am not a fan of CTs

But, it would be silly to ignore the amount of profit being threatened by EVs in general, and Tesla specifically, (and yes, I am aware that Musk is erratic, and an asshole at times, but as an EV/Green energy advocate of ten years standing, I have seen a LOT of well-funded lies coming out of astroturf groups that is too slick and too coordinated).

I very much remember in the 80s trying to explain to folks that the Tobacco Industry was undermining anti-smoking efforts, only to have those factual concerns dismissed as "paranoia" and "conspiracy-mongering".

[paulkienitz]

4. but how would this slow Tesla down?

If the conspiracy loses money on shorting, how does the shorting actually make life harder for Tesla? The money they lose goes to someone else who bet the other way, that person is likely to publicize their success, which just makes the stock go up more, which raises more capital for Tesla.

I think the shorting is more easily explained by the extremely overinflated stock price. It's a bubble that's bound to deflate at some point.

[TomVilmer]

5. Program sounds worse than North Korean State Television...

... and I sit in a Tesla S quite often. Back seats is children sized - I have better space in the back of an Austin Mini, and also the plastic quality is better there. ¨

But yes, it is fantastic for driving and cheap on the run, but first you have to buy a really expensive car. Since my friend has a daily long drive for work, it is OK for him.

I do not trust that silly conspiracy story though. If it had been simple to build a decent electric car earlier, all of China would have been driving electrics a lot earlier - patents or not.

[bucolic_frolic]

6. Seems to me I saw a YouTube video about how the body is assembled

with a few dozen stamped parts, bolted together, and the video claimed this was inefficient with more fitting and therefore drove up the price of the vehicle relative to conventional manufacturers who used far fewer parts, welded together when constructing their body frames.

So there's one place it's not the greatest car on the planet, according to that video, if you value efficiency and cost and price, and what you get for your money.