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Rhiannon12866

(205,336 posts)
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 03:15 AM Jun 2020

Doctor: 'Distortion Of Reality' About Coronavirus Is 'Mind-Numbing' - The Last Word - MSNBC



Dr. Vin Gupta tells Ali Velshi it is "irresponsible" for the White House to downplay the rise of coronavirus cases because it exacerbates the "collective lack of patience" with restrictions and shutdowns. Aired on 6/12/2020.


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Doctor: 'Distortion Of Reality' About Coronavirus Is 'Mind-Numbing' - The Last Word - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Jun 2020 OP
Again, I have said this before... yuiyoshida Jun 2020 #1
They're insisting on "opening up" everything in some states, declining masks and distancing Rhiannon12866 Jun 2020 #2
There maybe three hundred thousand deaths by the time this is over.... yuiyoshida Jun 2020 #3
That's what I really don't get - how is it that Republicans aren't horrified by his behavior?? Rhiannon12866 Jun 2020 #5
I guess right wingers really want a dictatorship in this country yuiyoshida Jun 2020 #6
I used to think that these people just weren't paying attention Rhiannon12866 Jun 2020 #7
The sad part is even when he is ousted.... yuiyoshida Jun 2020 #8
I wouldn't be all that sure about that Rhiannon12866 Jun 2020 #9
Unless as its been said before Squidly Jun 2020 #10
Letitia James is the Attorney General of New York Rhiannon12866 Jun 2020 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author yuiyoshida Jun 2020 #4
What 22 states anyone have a link? I live in WI and since Walker I DON't trust a word from officials usaf-vet Jun 2020 #12
That statement came from the doctor on the video Rhiannon12866 Jun 2020 #13
I'll have to listen to the video again. I got the 22 from the original post. usaf-vet Jun 2020 #15
The day before they said 21 states, yesterday they said 22 Rhiannon12866 Jun 2020 #16
And all the dishonest government folks are hiding in the confusion. The sin of omission. usaf-vet Jun 2020 #17
It's still here; it hasn't gone anywhere magicguido Jun 2020 #14

Rhiannon12866

(205,336 posts)
2. They're insisting on "opening up" everything in some states, declining masks and distancing
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 03:34 AM
Jun 2020

And tonight we heard that cases are increasing in 22 states. Where is the leadership on this??

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
3. There maybe three hundred thousand deaths by the time this is over....
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 03:39 AM
Jun 2020

Donald Trump is Responsible for this, and yet, I have this feeling that he will never pay for it. Maybe the State of NY will put him away for tax evasion, but for allowing all these deaths? No.

Rhiannon12866

(205,336 posts)
5. That's what I really don't get - how is it that Republicans aren't horrified by his behavior??
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 03:50 AM
Jun 2020

It took the Republicans to get rid of Nixon - and he hadn't colluded with a foreign power nor allowed a pandemic to ravage the nation while denying that thousands were dying??

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
6. I guess right wingers really want a dictatorship in this country
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 03:57 AM
Jun 2020

Certainly Putin is behind some of it, but the Republican party has changed. The Religious bigots, and all the bigots have taken over the party. Trump has fired as many departments as possible, he is slowly dismantling our US Government. He liked what the Chinese leader said about being ruler for life. Trump thought since its never been done, he might want to be ruler for life. He has probably gotten Putin to help him. The only way to win, is to have the largest landslide victory for Joe Biden ever seen. Historic. Maybe the right wingers who still love Trump will be whittled down even further.

Rhiannon12866

(205,336 posts)
7. I used to think that these people just weren't paying attention
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 04:13 AM
Jun 2020

But it's gotten so it's impossible to be unaware of Trump's daily offenses. That's all the news that there is, there isn't even time to cover all of it. And you're right, he's filled every department and office with minions or "buddies" with no experience or qualifications. He's not only rejected our centuries-old allies in favor of the worst and most brutal dictatorships in the world, he's put Americans in danger not only because of this historic pandemic, but he's systematically gotten rid of safety regulations and environmental protections. How anyone who is still conscious won't vote against that totally boggles the mind...

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
8. The sad part is even when he is ousted....
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 04:25 AM
Jun 2020

Last edited Sat Jun 13, 2020, 02:36 PM - Edit history (1)

Nothing will happen to him, with maybe the exception of the STATE of NY going after him. For all we know, Putin may have arranged a flight out to Moscow for him and his family if they don't win. I guess they will all have to either learn Russian or employ translators for every day life.

I REALLY WANT TO SEE... Federal Officers step in, and turn him over to the New York State Police. IF he got life for Tax Evasion, I would not complain but I seriously doubt that he will stay in any prison long.

Rhiannon12866

(205,336 posts)
9. I wouldn't be all that sure about that
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 04:59 AM
Jun 2020

Biden has promised that there will be investigations - and we know that Trump isn't getting a pardon!

Squidly

(783 posts)
10. Unless as its been said before
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 06:34 AM
Jun 2020

That he resigns shortly before Biden's inauguration, making Pence POTUS and then Pence pardons the whole lot for any federal crimes. Then its all up to NY.

Rhiannon12866

(205,336 posts)
11. Letitia James is the Attorney General of New York
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 06:40 AM
Jun 2020

And one thing she said during her campaign was that she intended to hold Trump to account.

Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #2)

usaf-vet

(6,186 posts)
12. What 22 states anyone have a link? I live in WI and since Walker I DON't trust a word from officials
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 09:52 AM
Jun 2020

From my personal observations, we are starting to see summer 2nd home folks coming into our region. Coming from Twin Cities, Chicago, and southern regions of Wisconsin.

The area of the state I live in the number of cases has been low. But with northern travel from dense population centers, I would expect the numbers will increase.

Rhiannon12866

(205,336 posts)
13. That statement came from the doctor on the video
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 10:03 AM
Jun 2020

He said there's a resurgence of cases in the South and West. I believe he specifically mentioned Arizona and Utah - though that may have been from another news report I saw.

And it's the same in my area of Northeastern New York. It's a fairly rural area and the first coronavirus death in the county made the headlines of the local paper. But now tourist season is starting and businesses are beginning to open. I've seen license plates from other states - including Alabama and Tennessee!

usaf-vet

(6,186 posts)
15. I'll have to listen to the video again. I got the 22 from the original post.
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 10:37 AM
Jun 2020

One day you hear 11 states are seeing an increase. Now 22 states. But I have found a link that spells out the 11 states let alone 22 states.

We are on the same page when it comes to wondering what will happen with summer vacationers.

Update: watched the video again. The graphics on the screen said 20 states. Then a the ~1:18 mark the Dr. said 22 states.

Rhiannon12866

(205,336 posts)
16. The day before they said 21 states, yesterday they said 22
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 11:06 AM
Jun 2020

This was on MSNBC. I only remember hearing them mention Arizona and Utah specifically, just from the news I saw.

And here in New York, only groceries and gas stations have been open - and some take out food places, that's about it. But with the start of tourist season just north of here (Lake George), the tourist frequented businesses and beaches are starting to open up. And the tourists always spill over down here. Masks are required in every grocery and gas station/convenience store, it's posted on every entrance, and the floors are marked to ensure distancing. but who's going to enforce it?

usaf-vet

(6,186 posts)
17. And all the dishonest government folks are hiding in the confusion. The sin of omission.
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 01:35 PM
Jun 2020
Then on the other end of the spectrum, we have a Wisconsin newly elected congressional Representative Tom Tiffany calling for defunding any school that doesn't open this fall.

Tiffany now represents the NW corner of the state the very area that will see the largest influx of tourists possibly infecting locals with Covid-19 to take to schools which he demands get open this fall.

Oh!, and I should mention that Tiffany just got elected in a special election in a secure gerrymandered GOP district. The very district that Sean Duffy resigned from in September 2019. Duffy resigned to spend more time with his family and their newborn 9th child with heart and chromosomal birth defects. Rumor now has it that he has since taken a K Street lobbying job.
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