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Shining City on a Hill??? (Original Post) magicguido Jul 2020 OP
never llashram Jul 2020 #1
I'm a big history buff and it always bugs me that Reagan's use of the phrase is Squinch Jul 2020 #3
Did not know that -- thanks. nt Lord Ludd Jul 2020 #4
WOW!!! That is fabulous. Squinch Jul 2020 #2
Brilliantly done NameAlreadyTaken Oct 2020 #5

llashram

(6,265 posts)
1. never
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 02:09 PM
Jul 2020

Last edited Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:41 AM - Edit history (1)

have believed in some shining city on a hill. Shining because the lobbyists fill the Congress peoples pockets with silver and gold? And my answer on just about every question Reagan asked, NO! Hasn't been the Republicon agenda ever.

Squinch

(51,059 posts)
3. I'm a big history buff and it always bugs me that Reagan's use of the phrase is
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 02:28 PM
Jul 2020

exactly the opposite to its original meaning. And come to think of it, it's original meaning is much more appropriate to us today.

The original is from John Winthrop, talking to the brand new colonists about their Puritan experiment in the New World. He does not call it a SHINING city on a hill at all.

He is telling his followers that they are a "city on a hill" (not shining.) Visible to everyone. All eyes are upon them. So it is incumbent on every one of them to live soberly and productively for the good of the colony, because if they fail, the colony will become a laughingstock, a "byword."

It was not a compliment. It was a warning against becoming a symbol of failure. Which is exactly what we have become.

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