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Related: About this forumGov. Kate Brown On Federal Agents With No ID Pulling Protesters In Portland, Oregon
Governor Kate Brown of Oregon, 'purely about political theater, not about problem solving, terrifying for citizens.' MSNBC, Chris Hayes, July 17, 2020.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Rebl2
(13,458 posts)men dressed in plain clothes and in unmarked vehicles yanking people off the street and throwing them in the back of a van not kidnapping.
love_katz
(2,578 posts)Oregon's chapter of the ACLU is filing numerous lawsuits in this case, including against the federal government. Oregon's democratically elected officials have spoken out quite loudly that these kinds of tactics are unacceptable, and have told the feds to remove their troops. As Governor Brown put it, this was political theatre and a photo op for Agolf Twitler to win political points in Ohio and Iowa. It is illegal kidnapping by federal thugs, which should be terrifying to citizens in every state, and should spark unquenchable rage and political backlash against the current maladministration in D.C.
RVN VET71
(2,689 posts)1. Chris, if two men with guns force you into a van, you're going to go into the van. Struggling or trying to flee could get you shot with real bullets.
2. Governor Brown seemed resigned to the occupation. I don't think she's acting irresponsibly, but she spoke very carefully, very deliberately and let Chris and the world know that neither she not Portland's mayor want Trump's thugs on their streets and that both she and Portland's mayor have asked that they be withdrawn. That's fine, but, well, I expected more of an expressed sense of outrage, a notion that if the goons don't go, things are going to happen and "stuff" is going to hit the fan. Maybe a reference to her and her immediate staff being on the phone with their Senators and Representatives almost constantly, deliberating about what is being done and what can be done, and with Wolf and the butt-wipe Cuccinelli, shaking fists in a manner of speaking and using the bully pulpit of her office to stay in the camera's eye to keep the American people focused on the fascist outrage taking place in her state. (But, then, I'm not in the Governor's shoes and am unfamiliar with the restraints that may be forced upon her by her position.)
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)They could be white supremacists, terrorists, etc. kidnapping people they don't like to torture and kill them. I get that law enforcement likes to pick on unarmed protestors, but they could just as easily get shot by armed people who see this happening, or even by uniformed local police who didn't get the memo.