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Attorney General William Barr testifies before House Judiciary Committee Live (Original Post) ancianita Jul 2020 OP
Gym Jordan kicks off the hearing by laying out the entire basis of the Senate's refusal to indict ancianita Jul 2020 #1
I expect nothing. old guy Jul 2020 #2
Why? Nadlers's opening statement was powerful. ancianita Jul 2020 #3
Yes, exposure is nice and I welcome it, old guy Jul 2020 #7
The title should be "William Barr testy lies" dreamland Jul 2020 #4
Full transcript of Barr's opening statement to the committee. ancianita Jul 2020 #5
Nadler's opening question reveals Barr's support of the WH's "Operation Relentless Pursuit." ancianita Jul 2020 #6
Barr obscures the validity of the protestors' attempt to end racist policing policy nationwide. He ancianita Jul 2020 #8
Barr said the number of blacks killed this year by police is 8 . . . markpkessinger Jul 2020 #9
Zoe Lofgren points out to Barr that the paramilitaries have provoked more violence more than quelled ancianita Jul 2020 #10
93 fed jurisdictions are subject to Trumpgoons' presence to protect all federal buildings in them. ancianita Jul 2020 #11
Barr denies systemic racism in policing, only in the country. He is against eliminating "qualified ancianita Jul 2020 #12
Barr is Testif-lying. dchill Jul 2020 #13
Guy in glasses: Do you believe there ever was a basis for the Flynn investigation? ancianita Jul 2020 #14
Rep Johnson from Atlanta: based on 45's tweet, you changed your Roger Stone ancianita Jul 2020 #15
Buck's statement that antifa attacked police presumes that antifa are identifiable. ancianita Jul 2020 #16
Rep Karen Bass (CA) to Barr: Zero tolerance equals racist DOJ policy, with receipts. ancianita Jul 2020 #17
Matt Gaetz tries to establish antifa as terrorist. Barr implies that they're anarchist. ancianita Jul 2020 #18
Gym Jordan to Barr ancianita Jul 2020 #19
Hakeem Jeffries to Barr ancianita Jul 2020 #20
Swalwell to Barr ancianita Jul 2020 #21

ancianita

(35,926 posts)
1. Gym Jordan kicks off the hearing by laying out the entire basis of the Senate's refusal to indict
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 11:27 AM
Jul 2020

45 after The House voted on two counts of Impeachment.

ancianita

(35,926 posts)
3. Why? Nadlers's opening statement was powerful.
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 11:32 AM
Jul 2020

Isn't exposure of the two parties' politics something?

old guy

(3,283 posts)
7. Yes, exposure is nice and I welcome it,
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 11:49 AM
Jul 2020

but Barr is not going to reveal anything that will change the course. This is impeachment hearings revisited and I know how that turned out. Again, I applaud the effort but expect nothing to result from it.

ancianita

(35,926 posts)
6. Nadler's opening question reveals Barr's support of the WH's "Operation Relentless Pursuit."
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 11:48 AM
Jul 2020

Or "Operation Legend." Barr blames COVID for the drama, as far as I can tell.

ancianita

(35,926 posts)
8. Barr obscures the validity of the protestors' attempt to end racist policing policy nationwide. He
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 11:56 AM
Jul 2020

obscures their protests solely by using their attacks on a federal court building as DOJ justification of the president's decision to use 75,000 paramilitaries across Democratic states.

That is called out yet by the House Judiciary Committee.

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
9. Barr said the number of blacks killed this year by police is 8 . . .
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 11:57 AM
Jul 2020

. . . while the number of whites so killed is 11, as if that actually means something. But the number of non-Hispanic whites in this country is roughly 4.5 times the number of African Americans. So if, in fact, the two groups were being treated equally, one would expect the number of whites killed by police to be somewhere around 36.

ancianita

(35,926 posts)
10. Zoe Lofgren points out to Barr that the paramilitaries have provoked more violence more than quelled
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 11:59 AM
Jul 2020

it.

Barr continually characterizes protestors as rioters.

Lofgren confronts Barr with literal cyber surveillance of protestors, and says that the American public should know that.

ancianita

(35,926 posts)
11. 93 fed jurisdictions are subject to Trumpgoons' presence to protect all federal buildings in them.
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 12:06 PM
Jul 2020

U.S. Marshals are also used to protect buildings. In Portland the usual 25 marshals increased to 95 because of "rioters."

Portland is targeted because local officials don't protect the fed buildings, and not sent to the other jurisdictions because local officials and LEO's do protect the fed buildings.

ancianita

(35,926 posts)
12. Barr denies systemic racism in policing, only in the country. He is against eliminating "qualified
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 12:14 PM
Jul 2020

immunity" for police.

The reason the DOJ has only conducted ONE patterns and practices investigation is that the local training of police is to blame.

Barr claims that 241 and 242 prosecutions are many, but excuses their absence in the cases of police murder because, he claims, that grand juries couldn't be convened in the jurisdictions of the murders.

ancianita

(35,926 posts)
14. Guy in glasses: Do you believe there ever was a basis for the Flynn investigation?
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 12:30 PM
Jul 2020

Barr: Well, another guy told me no.

FBI docs said no.

Barr: The only purpose of Flynn's interview (untethered to any basis for the interview) was a fishing expedition to get probable cause.

Gig: should officers get due process of grand jury and investigation before being charged with felony murder?

Barr: yes.

ancianita

(35,926 posts)
15. Rep Johnson from Atlanta: based on 45's tweet, you changed your Roger Stone
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jul 2020

sentence recommendation.

Barr: I only followed the guidelines, I was not carrying out 45's desire.

ancianita

(35,926 posts)
16. Buck's statement that antifa attacked police presumes that antifa are identifiable.
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 12:41 PM
Jul 2020

Buck presumes and states that antifa are violent anarchists and terrorists.

Buck: Can RICO be used to prosecute violent criminal groups like antifa?

Barr: Yes. But we do not currently have a RICO case pending.

ancianita

(35,926 posts)
17. Rep Karen Bass (CA) to Barr: Zero tolerance equals racist DOJ policy, with receipts.
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:02 PM
Jul 2020

Bass: will you direct the DOJ to review chokeholds and undu use of force and ketamine

Barr: according to the president's executive order, yes

Bass: what have you done on chokeholds

Barr: were' reviewing local dept certifications

Bass: what is your view of national registry of LEO's

Barr: the prez has directed a national database of past police service history

Bass: Laws are not applied equally, from law enforcement to incarceration; it is the percentage of application that makes the laws enforcement racist


Bass proves the police abuse of Blacks compared to whites and the DOJ is not doing enough to equalize treatment of different race targets.

ancianita

(35,926 posts)
18. Matt Gaetz tries to establish antifa as terrorist. Barr implies that they're anarchist.
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:09 PM
Jul 2020

With no reference to the antifa self-proclaimed identity as everyday Americans who hate fascism.

Gaetz: They "metastisize" and can "infect" other "parts" of America.

Gaetz: Do you think antifa violence would simply stop? Or is it your expert opinionn that they wouldn't stop?

Barr: There is no doubt in my mind that it will spread.

Gaertz: Will you give regular Americans assurance that they'll be "protected"?

We can's stand aside and allow this destruction.

ancianita

(35,926 posts)
19. Gym Jordan to Barr
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:20 PM
Jul 2020

Jordan: Would St Paul's Episcopal Church exist without your involvement?

Barr: No

Barr on unmasking: There is an investigation on unmasking right now done by TX (?)

GJ: Is defunding police a rational policy?

Barr: No. It's about the misuse of resources directed away from police.

GJ: Is it dangerous?

Barr: Extremely dangerous.

GJ: In Seattle and Minneapolis, defunding the police is extremely dangerous. That is how ridiculous the Left's position has become.

ancianita

(35,926 posts)
20. Hakeem Jeffries to Barr
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:24 PM
Jul 2020

HJ: What will you do after Nov 3 if 45 refuses to leave

WB: If the election results are clear I will leave.

HJ asks COVID questions that prove that Barr knows show 45's leadership as "NOT SUPERB."

Jeffries pronounces Barr a liar to his face.

ancianita

(35,926 posts)
21. Swalwell to Barr
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:37 PM
Jul 2020

Barr pleads ignorance of evidence that Stone's commutation is a crime; that he's not investigating the president, though he admits that in his conformation hearing he'd treat any such pardon as a crime.

Swalwell claims that Barr refutes and deflects any responsibility toward investigating the president.

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