Ted Koppel Gives it to FoxNews - To Their Face!!

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Ted Koppel visits Bill O' Reilly on his show on FoxNews - but he is honest (unlike the rest of the folks on FoxNews) and let's Bill O' Reilly know EXACTLY what he thinks of their brand of 'news'.

When O'Reilly says the difference between FoxNews and MSNBC is that Fox does HARD NEWS, you can almost sense Koppel is going to break out in a loud laugh. He is more thoughtful in his response, but shows what a real journalist is like by using restraint, but you know he must be thinking it.

Koppel doesn't have any problem with a business (like Fox News) being a business, whether for entertainment or politics, but he refuses to fall in with the Fox News opinion that they are either REAL news or anything remotely close to it.

You will love the ending when O'Reilly suggest what he is doing at Fox is NOBLE work.

[liberal N proud]

1. What was Kopple's last word? I couldn't make it out as the sound cut off then.

Looked like he lipped the word BULL.

[tomm2thumbs]

2. he give's Bill a kiss, but not just any kiss

You may have seen that kind of kiss in a mafia movie.... the kiss of death.... the kiss itself does not bring death or harm, but the person who receives it knows that his days are numbered.

[AsahinaKimi]

11. I thought that was

fabulous! And, I hope you are right, the kiss of death to Fox Network.

[BlueStreak]

29. By O'Reilly's argument, Faux is in the wrong

Because the last few days MSNBC has had higher ratings on the key advertising demographic. So if O'Reilly's argument is that you can't have a large audience without being "fair and balanced", the fact that they are losing market share must be an indication that they aren't offering a quality product.

Of course his whole premise is hogwash. They get ratings because they have found a tiny slice of the public that needs to have right-wing bullshit reinforce their racist, demented view of civilized society, and they need this reinforcement continuously. That's the business model, and the loss of market share must indicate that some of that tiny slice are coming out of the fog -- or else they are finding Honey Boo Boo more educational.

[PatSeg]

37. Also, much of their ratings are deceptive

Many businesses keep televisions tuned to FOX News all day. A lot of hotels, hospitals, and bars/restaurants don't carry MSNBC, but they all carry FOX. I used to go to a gas station that had televisions at the pumps and they were playing FOX News.

[BlueStreak]

44. There are a few places that have Libmaugh on the radio

If I find myself in a restaurant or other business that is playing right-wing media, I I don't make an ass of myself. I enjoy the meal, leave a nice tip but then ask to speak with the manager and explain that many of his/her customers find that type of programming offensive and won't come back to their business because of that.

In about 90% of the cases that I have done this, I found that they did make a change. There is one MacDonalds that keeps Faux on and won't change. I don't frequent that business. I think I will write a letter to MacDonalds corporate today. I am a shareholder, coincidentally, so I will ask them as a shareholder to stop doing this thing that potentially offends a significant percentage of MY customers.

We may not have any alternative to using the airports (although we can still make our concerns known to management), but we certainly have a choice in restaurants.

This cuts both ways, of course. There was a Chinese buffet I frequented that played NPR quietly in the background. One day I came in and they were playing country music, so I suppose somebody complained about the NPR. I didn't say anything because country music is neutral. However, I also noticed they went out of business 6 weeks later. I'm not saying there is any connection, but ...

[PatSeg]

47. It is just flat out bad business

If a business wants to play something in the background, it should be fairly inoffensive and generic. Otherwise play nothing.

Have to laugh at a Chinese Buffet playing country music though! Very strange combination.

[BlueStreak]

48. Well they did have "chicken-fried" tenderloins on the buffet.

And cooked turnip greens, complete with bacon.

"Welcome to our restaurant, honorable future heart attack victim."

[PatSeg]

49. And they went out of business???

Can't imagine why.

Thanks for the first laugh-out-loud of the day!

[greiner3]

5. Blew him a kiss?

[HeeBGBz]

41. Yes, or maybe POO. n/t

[Lasher]

3. Koppel blew him a kiss at the end!

Quite the smackdown, methinks.

[underpants]

4. LOL-smooch at the end is hilarious. O'Reilly admits there that all the prime time shows are not NEWS

Koppel nails him on the political effect the strangehold that Fox News has on Republicans. Anyone who dares go off script is DONE and will be buried by Fox News.

O'Reilly states that from "9 am to 5 pm we do hard news" -- there was an article on Fox n Friends (on before 9 am mind you) in the NY Times in which they also admit that it is "entertainment" not news.

Bill skips over what got their network going and why old guys still watch it....the blondes in heels with no desk. They moved the desk for eye candy. THAT sells anywhere Bill.

[NoMoreWarNow]

27. That was hilarious!!

Wow-- priceless.

[MissNostalgia]

32. LOL that was a smooch

I thought he spat on him, wishful thinking on my part I guess.

[Jamaal510]

51. No wonder why

"Bill skips over what got their network going and why old guys still watch it....the blondes in heels with no desk. They moved the desk for eye candy. THAT sells anywhere Bill."

I always see upskirt and cleavage videos whenever I type in "Fox News" on YouTube. Their viewers are a bunch of pervs.

[spicegal]

6. Is it just me, or is BO stunningly arrogant? Is BO really that deluded?

Ted Koppel was right on the money. The rise of ideologically skewed "news" has been damaging to this country, and Fox leads the charge.

[Indpndnt]

30. Loofah Guy is indeed that arrogant. Not to mention grotesque as a human being.

Throw "deluded" in there and he's a freakin' trifecta.

[mucifer]

7. Koppel did give the "both sides" meme.

I wonder if he'd say the same to Rachel Maddow.

[Buzz Clik]

14. MSNBC is as biased and tilted to the left as O'Reilly claims. The only difference

... is that MSNBC does not pretend to be otherwise.

[mucifer]

20. I think MSNBC doesn't lie. But, they don't put too many negative stories about corrupt dems

on their programming. They just put more negative stories about republicans.

But, to me it's clear they don't spend most of their time lying.

[tosh]

22. That's not the ONLY difference.

MSNBC's opinion shows are based on and backed up by actual FACTS.

[Plucketeer]

25. THAT'S the real difference!

Facts vs. Fantasy!

[ailsagirl]

26. And the guests on MSNBC...

are a formidible group that include Nobel Prize winners, Pulitzer Prize winners, and a myriad of respected politicians and journalists.

[ailsagirl]

23. Absolutely not

MSNBC is unapologetically and proudly progressive, but it does NOT distort, mislead, or outright lie, as does Fox with its preprosterous 24-hour-a-day spin cycle.

Not even close.

[Patiod]

34. It also doesn't take its talking points from the White House

or Dem operatives, the way Fox "News" literally takes phrases and wording directly from the keyboard of the Karl Roves or Grover Norquists or (in darker times) from the Bush White House.

[Mnpaul]

35. Yeah, everyone tunes in every morning

To hear Joe Scarborough spout the liberal agenda.

[alfredo]

36. MSNBC gives a three hour show to a Republican. Its time slot

is during the breakfast hours, so there is an audience.

[oldbanjo]

39. Being biased and lying

are two different things. FOX LIES

[TahitiNut]

43. With the exception of the Morning Joke, MSNBC is pretty honest - both about themselves

... and about the FACTS. As a retiree, I'm a cable junkie ... watching MSNBC, CNN, PBS, and CSPAN. I *used* to watch Faux News but it required extra dosages of Lisinopril. It LITERALLY got to the point that I couldn't watch for more than 90 seconds before they'd throw yet another outrageous LIE at me.

I don't like LIARS.
I don't LIE.
I don't associate with LIARS.
I don't do business with LIARS.
I won't vote for a LIAR.

I don't give a feathered flying fuck whether it's left or right, or 'R' or 'D,' a LIAR will NEVER get my vote, my support, my business, or my acceptance. EVER.

It's against the law to commit assault and battery on someone's body. It SHOULD be against the law to commit assault and battery on someone's mind ... on someone's view of reality. To engage in a deliberate, continuous, unremitting assault on TRUTH like the Reich Wing is doing is unforgivable.

[Tigress DEM]

28. IF the Left were claiming Opinion IS NEWS, then it would be the same.

So what Koppel said was, that IF the Left were trying to convince everyone that propoganda is news, then they'd be wrong to do that.

He didn't claim the left was actually doing that, though.

He did say that the huge divide even if correctly labeled as opinion, is hurting the political end game that relies on some compromise.

[southernyankeebelle]

8. The kiss of death was the best without saying anything. You go Kop.

[Bohunk68]

9. I will give Ted one kudo

and that is that one night in 1999, I'd gotten bored by Letterman and Leno and turned on Nightline. Didn't have satelite at home in those days. He was talking about the PNAC and laid out their whole program. So, when 9/11 happened, it made me think of that program that perhaps it was a LIHOP. Since then, nothing has happened or come out that makes me think any differently. I still think the Boosh Misadministration Let It Happen On Purpose. Today, Rmoney and his backers are still working that scenario except that it is now Iran.

[Buzz Clik]

13. I do not believe that Koppel would be pleased to hear...

... that he was responsible for someone believing in LIHOP.

[Buzz Clik]

10. O'Reilly is a complete moron.

Arguing with him is a waste of time.

[clydefrand]

12. bull

Any lip readers out there? Look closer, he lips 'bull'!!!

[LittleRock]

15. revolution for the fourth estate?

The media has been complicit with the dangerous "perception is reality movement" with disastrous and dire consequences. (mushroom cloud anyone?). I feel a change, perhaps it is a quiet majority of the general population that has had enough of the BS, and realizes how truly catastrophic unchecked zealots can be. Facts and truth must be used to form ideas and policy not the other way around.
" For the listener, who listens in the snow, And, nothing himself, beholds Nothing that is not there and the nothing that is." Wallace Stevens

[DFW]

16. O'Really's last line is a mind-blower

"I still think I'm doing something noble."

No, asshole. Bill Clinton is doing something noble. Jimmy Carter is doing something noble.

What Bill O'Really has been doing includes incitement to commit murder. To a Republican, I guess, that's noble.

[Coyotl]

38. Koppel's response gesture is as mind-blowing as it gets

Noble my ass fool

[socialindependocrat]

17. We can't be on top and sell a product that is inferior or dishonest.

For the past 30 years businesses have held down the employees salaries while giving the CEOs massive bonuses for doing so.

Businesses have practiced the philosophy of - "DOn't leave any money lying on the table".
This means that if your customers are happy with the cost you are charging for your product or services then, you haven't charged enough.

Great example are Veterinarians: The charge thousands of dollars for procedures on a pet that originally cost $400. Do you have a twinge of outrage when I say that? Do you feel that your pet is a member of the family and you would pay whatever it costs to save the life of your family pet? That's the felling they are relying on so that they can charge you more and more money to save the life of the family pet. How many people take out loans in order to pay their vet bills? Now they have pet insurance so you will have the reserves to pay your vet bills.

We have been scammed for the past 30 years in order to benefit the "new world order" so that the salaries of the workers in the U.s. will begin to come in line with those salaries of the workers in less fortunate countries. Why then, aren't the salaries of the CEOs staying flat as well? Because they are the people who make the decisions regarding salaries - a dollar for you and a hundred for me!

It's the same idea as the Romney model - We shut down businesses and the consultants reap the benefits.

They cut benefits to the masses so they can give tax cuts to the wealthy.

The wealthy have benefited for the past 30 years. They've gotten extra money and lined their pockets. They thought the scam would never end and they're pissed that they can't continue to increase their incomes at the expense of the American people.

If you can fool 298 million people for 30 years you can certainly sell a product that is inferior and dishonest and there are many people who will still buy it.

Finally, look at how long it took ot figure out that our parent's training to respect and trust adults and people in positions of power was a scam? We had to learn to watch out for Priests, doctors, and police and we had to learn that everything you see on TV or written in the newspapers isn't the truth.

We were such nice trusting souls living quiet, inconsequential, "Norman Rockwell" lives.
Look at us now!
Are we better off than we were 30 years ago?

[Meandering1]

18. It's easy to be brave when your side is winning.

Koppel never showed the stones when it really counted. Like the buildup to war or the Bush attacks on the Constitution. In my mind he's just doing what he feels is more popular now that the heat is off. Following Tweety's (Chris Mathew) example.

What we need are real heroes. People like the late Bill Hicks or Edward Abbey. A hundred thousand of them.

[Carolina]

56. I totally agree and welcome to Du

I actually gave up on the media with Coup 2000 and my disheartenment turned to disdain with Iraq. So nothing any of them say now matters. And nothing Tweety does or says will ever overcome his fawning at the sight of flightsuited GWB!

[C_U_L8R]

19. Ted Koppel is my personal hero of the day !

what a smackdown !

[Segami]

21. LOL! The 'Michael Corleone kisses Fredo' sendoff.

[Frustratedlady]

24. Finally! Way to go, Ted!

Thanks! That started my day off the right way! I shall smile all day!

[Surya Gayatri]

31. Gotta love the kiss-off at the end...classic!

FoxNews: We deceive, you believe!

[Pamelajaynn]

33. Muah!!

Kissy Kissy loved it! Nobel? Bill? Lmlao!!

[ShoreBudMike]

40. Confusion: NOBEL vs noble

I am by no means a fan of the gas bag known as Bill O'Reilly. However, there is some confusion between what Mr. O'Reilly says at the end of this video and this sentence from the description of the video:

"You will love the ending when O'Reilly suggest what he is doing at Fox is NOBEL work."

The spelling NOBEL is that of any of six international prizes awarded annually for outstanding work in physics, chemistry, physiology or medicine, literature, economics (since 1969), and the promotion of peace.

Mr. O'Reilly used the word 'noble' which, first, is spelled and pronounced differently, and second, means having or showing fine personal qualities or high moral principles and ideals.

So, just to be clear, O'Reilly did not state or imply that he believes his work is worthy of a Nobel prize; he stated he believes his work reflects his alleged high moral principles and ideals.

[Bradical79]

42. Seconded - Please edit description :-)

I'm normally not picky over spelling errors on a message board, but this one did confuse me. With it spelled NOBEL in all caps I thought he was going to claim he deserved a Nobel prize, lol.

[Bradical79]

45. One thing I like about The O'Reilly Show..

He gets some smart people on there who absolutely destroy his right wing viewpoints. I don't have cable so I never watch his show in its entirety, but a lot of the best vids I see online of people laying the smack down on Conservatives in direct debate come from the O'Reilly Show. I'm not sure I can name another Conservative who gets hammered with truth and sense so frequently on his own tv show.

[Harriety]

46. I like how camly Koppel stated his case, making O'Reily look defensive & very un-informed.

[Stuart G]

50. k & r thanks for posting...nt

[frylock]

52. yeah, billo. it's real HARD pulling NEWS outta your ass

[TruthBeTold65]

53. Mr. Koppel...

You Rock!

[BrainMann1]

54. Ted's a bad boy

bad boy bad boy what you going to do when Ted comes for you?

[tomm2thumbs]

55. fixed spelling

noble vs nobel - apologies, it was late and I have 2 thumbs