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Published on Sep 19, 2012 by SISSAschool
On September 17, 2012, Noam Chomsky held a public lecture with the title "The Emerging World Order: its roots, our legacy" at Politeama Rossetti in Trieste.
plethoro
(594 posts)ddddddddddddddddd
SamKnause
(13,103 posts)Excellent lecture !!!
Definitely worth listening to.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Even though I'm just starting to watch this talk, his introduction reminded me of something that happened in 1975. My mother was driving me home from my first year of college. As we drove down the highway I was upset about two things. I was obsessed with them, in fact. Nuclear contamination of the planet, and world population. My mother told me not to worry until I saw the whites of their eyes, so to speak. And here I am, nearly 40 years later, watching one of the planet's brightest minds saying just what I was saying.
I'm going to go outside for a while. I need a walk. I'm not sure how I feel about this.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)nearly forty years after I became an anti-nuke activist, and over forty years after I read Rachel Carson's Silent Spring--which motivated me to contemplate overpopulation and opt out of bearing children--hoping that I'm not sliding inexorably into misanthropy.
I can empathize, Gregorian, and I am now well placed to immerse myself in the beautiful Ozarks, when contemplating our species' self-immolation becomes too frustrating.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)I've got it pretty good, in that I have my own private world. But the world is changing so fast that each place I move to only lasts a short while before the noise of cars and planes encroaches.
I loved what he said about both parties being far to the right of the majority of the population.
We're in a dangerous time. A billion people can't do too much damage. But 7 billion can do much without trying very hard at all.
I guess only a few of us have the luxury of being able to think. Most people design their lives so they have to perform.
I'm also childless. I hope you have peace where you are.
I guess only a few of us have the luxury of being able to think. Most people design their lives so they have to perform.
I hope you don't mind if I use that quote in other venues.
I have to say that, after five years of un- or under-employment, I have a new job. I should be able to buy property within six months. I will look for some acreage that has running water year round. I am a biointensive gardener, and have already been collecting heirloom seeds. I've also gone Vegan, and anticipate trending toward raw.
Meanwhile, an acquaintance with lots of money is letting me stay in his garage apartment, rent free. We are so remote, I rarely hear human sounds. I get to watch a herd of 6-8 deer every morning, and countless hummingbirds throughout the day.
I'm regaining my exercise chops--up to a mile a day, and working back to four. The hills here help get my heart rate up.
I am blissed out most of the time. While I continue to get most of my news from DU, I limit my time here, since most of what I read reminds me how disconnected, fearful, and angry are most of our species. I am much less willing to tolerate such negativity.
Thanks for your thoughtful reply.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)I've been buying and selling farms and ranches for 20 years. Not as a means of making money, but trying to find a place that works. If I could tolerate hot summers I'd have it made. But I have to be on the coast.
I saved a crow a few months ago, and he is now my friend, coming every morning for my apple core and other scraps. My day consists of mountain biking about 15 miles on some great trails I've got in the forest here.
I thought you were going to pummel me over that statement I made. It's just my experience that people have this tendency to mess up their lives with things like children and mortgages. I just got lucky in that my folks had a few bucks to loan me for my first house. It took a few years of very hard work, but I became mortgage free by my third property.
I'm pretty discouraged right now. There are still monstrosities being built right now. People just don't have a clue. My second house was a 500 sq ft. cabin. Four years I lived in that thing. I loved it. I'm presently living in a super modern shop I designed and built. But I've managed to not cut down a forest and then some in order to build some hideous villa. I'm pretty disgusted right now as I'm looking again for that next place, and just running into all kinds of ugliness. Not only that, but once the internet hit, and the low rate no document loans were being given away bare land started to be a pretty rare thing.
I could write a book on what I've seen and done. And as frustrating as it has been, I've been fortunate enough to own a true smorgasbord of real estate. Now I'm feeling like I'm running out of time as I approach sixty. And with all of the places I've owned I now know clearly what I don't want. But I'm still not sure what I do want. A house is not a home. But deer every morning just might make up for it. I've got my eyes on a small property in Oregon that has it all. Pond, creek, owls. We'll see.
It's time for the evening walk through the redwoods. I hope you find what you want.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)I have long known I would return to the Ozarks to finish my days. I am 56, and determined to be vital and healthy through the end of my time on Earth. I dearly love the Ozarks, and am well versed in this growing zone.
I am wondering how you would feel about Costa Rica. My nephew and his wife and daughter have acquired a beautiful, beachfront property near Puerto Jiminez for very little money. They have mango, lime, papaya, coconuts, and pineapples growing on their land. I had my first fresh lychees there!
The temperature in Puerto Jiminez is about 85 F all year round. I found it comfortable--only once did the humidity seem stifling. If you get too hot, the ocean is just a few steps away.
We saw whales and dolphins. My BIL and nephews watched a sea turtle emerge from the surf, dig her nest, and lay eggs. The next morning, we chased caracaras (scavenger birds) away from the nest. Red macaws, spider monkeys, capuchins, howlers, and pacas are abundant. In fact, the flora and fauna are stunningly beautiful. I am so very glad I got to experience that ecosystem.
All that being said, I wish you good luck finding the property you want.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)I am not surprised to hear one of our esteemed polymaths observe:
The inability to face the truth about oneself is all too common a feature of the intellectual culture, and it has ominous implications.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)It's almost funny that he calls George HW Bush the "civilized Bush".
This is an extremely important talk. This one talk is worth every thread on the DU forum. You could kill every thread here, and have only this one, and we'd probably accomplish more than what we have now. Maybe not. But it sure is a fact filled discussion of how we ended up where we are.
rbnyc
(17,045 posts)I hope people will take the time to listen.