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Examining Interesting Maps (Original Post) Yavin4 Nov 2020 OP
Fascinating! NurseJackie Nov 2020 #1
Pretty amazing. Yavin4 Nov 2020 #2
That was cool. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2020 #3
That was interesting Cirque du So-What Nov 2020 #4
This is why I like the below map BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #5
Maybe the US is under-populated. Yavin4 Nov 2020 #7
I do definitely believe that regions (including climate, geography and topology) BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #9
Also, religion becomes important in sparsely populated areas because it's the primary way of Yavin4 Nov 2020 #11
In that case BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #14
Saw it was 14 minutes, so didn't think I watch the whole presentstion, but.... Fla Dem Nov 2020 #6
Thank you. I love maps! ancianita Nov 2020 #8
No, but I am getting into data visualization Yavin4 Nov 2020 #10
Absolutely. ancianita Nov 2020 #12
Nice BigOleDummy Nov 2020 #13
Fascinating! burrowowl Nov 2020 #15

Yavin4

(35,406 posts)
2. Pretty amazing.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 12:18 PM
Nov 2020

There are a lot of political lessons that you can glean just by our geography and why we think/vote the way that we do.

BumRushDaShow

(128,257 posts)
5. This is why I like the below map
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:20 PM
Nov 2020


A little of it was touched on in the OP's video that basically displayed the areas of the states that are actually populated that shows why trotting out a map that depicts party affiliation using "geography" (with state outlines rather than actual "population" within the states), is not only disingenuous, but highly distorts the reality.

In fact, after the 2008 elections, there were some attempts to better depict this phenomena like this - https://www.scientificamerican.com/slideshow/electoral-results-maps/



Or this from 2016

and from 2000 -



(both of the above from here - https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/how-election-maps-lie/)

The same political distortion happens with PA where you'll see a large swatch of "red" with tiny areas of blue around the edges and corners, whereas the reality is that 36 of PA's 67 counties each have less than 100,000 residents, including 3 that have less than 10,000.

Yavin4

(35,406 posts)
7. Maybe the US is under-populated.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:25 PM
Nov 2020

We have far more land than we have people. We are too sparse. This is why guns and religion are so important to certain areas of the country.

BumRushDaShow

(128,257 posts)
9. I do definitely believe that regions (including climate, geography and topology)
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:43 PM
Nov 2020

definitely impact how people's worldviews and how the laws impact them. I.e., it is difficult to try to impose a "one-size fits all" approach to certain types of laws.

If I own a cattle ranch with 1000 acres and several hundred head of cattle that I'm hoping will bring a price of $1,500 a head, and a pack of wolves appears and starts going after them, then I sure as hell would want to pull out my gun (rifle) to dispatch of them post-haste.

However in a city with 60 rowhouses per block, there is no damn need for a rifle (unless you use it for hunting and NOT hunting people), let alone a MAC-10.

Yavin4

(35,406 posts)
11. Also, religion becomes important in sparsely populated areas because it's the primary way of
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 02:20 PM
Nov 2020

building a social structure. I live in NYC, and when I want to be social or become part of a community, I can just leave my house. Heck, I don't even have to do that given my apt. bldg.

so church becomes important as a means for people to connect with each other.

BumRushDaShow

(128,257 posts)
14. In that case
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 02:32 PM
Nov 2020

religion seems to be a more diverse entity and isn't necessarily an "urban vs rural" thing. In rural areas, it most likely provides some sort of organizational structure outside of "clubs" (like card game clubs or crafting clubs).

But religion also offers a refuge for many marginalized communities and you can find all sorts of houses of worships - whether "formal/established" as well or "storefront" types, in a typical city. Many provide food pantries, housing, and some types of social services (e.g., for addiction or other counseling).

That's why you often hear it referred to as "the opiate of the masses".

Fla Dem

(23,556 posts)
6. Saw it was 14 minutes, so didn't think I watch the whole presentstion, but....
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:24 PM
Nov 2020

Wow, what great video. Very interesting and enlightening information. Thanks!

ancianita

(35,915 posts)
8. Thank you. I love maps!
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:28 PM
Nov 2020

Have you ever read Prisoners of Geography by Tim Marshall? Great read with maps, of course.

ancianita

(35,915 posts)
12. Absolutely.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 02:28 PM
Nov 2020

A lot of what geographic visualization has meant in Marshall's book is that the more the powerful can contain populations with physical obstacles and notions of "difference and old grievance 'over there on the 'other' side,' " the more the powerful can move around without their populations knowing.

Space has become digital, but on the ground realities, combined with digital power, are still big factors in human freedom and mobility.

BigOleDummy

(2,260 posts)
13. Nice
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 02:29 PM
Nov 2020

Thanks for posting this. Very interesting and informative.

As an aside....... politically .... well.... how to say it? I'm freaking tired of the cows in Wyoming having as much voice in our Senate as people do. Just sayin

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