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Lock him up.

(6,925 posts)
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 12:48 AM Dec 2020

Trump Lashes Out at Bill Barr for Disloyalty. Does Barr Already Have his "Pocket Pardon"?

Donald Trump has been lashing out at Bill Barr for, among other things, announcing there was no election fraud undermining Joe Biden's win and now for Barr "failing" to disclose publicly prior to the election that Hunter Biden's taxes were under investigation.

Barr's decision to break from Trump on these issues raises the question of whether Barr might already have a pardon from Trump (what I would refer to as a "pocket pardon&quot . Importantly, there is no requirement that a pardon be made public by either the president or the pardon recipient. That is, unless the person pardoned is charged criminally and needs to disclose the pardon to avoid prosecution. Moreover, the Supreme Court decided in 1866 in a case called Ex parte Garland that the court has the authority to decide legal issues regarding the scope of presidential pardons. Here's how things might play out on the pardon front.


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Trump Lashes Out at Bill Barr for Disloyalty. Does Barr Already Have his "Pocket Pardon"? (Original Post) Lock him up. Dec 2020 OP
I doubt Barr has a pocket pardon because Trump would never do it. marylandblue Dec 2020 #1
Although Barr is thoroughly unethical it's not comradebillyboy Dec 2020 #2
Should we place bets on if Barr gets canned before January 20th? Doreen Dec 2020 #3
What does Barr have on Trump arlyellowdog Dec 2020 #4

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
1. I doubt Barr has a pocket pardon because Trump would never do it.
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 02:08 AM
Dec 2020

He likes to promise but hold delivery until he gets everything he wants. Barr did not deliver anything for Trump regarding the election, so I am sure he didn't get his pardon yet and now he is off the list.

comradebillyboy

(10,143 posts)
2. Although Barr is thoroughly unethical it's not
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 02:11 AM
Dec 2020

clear that he committed any crimes. He's a careful fellow and I doubt he needs a pardon. Which is why he can afford to break with Trump.

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