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onecaliberal
(32,902 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,021 posts)That's for damn sure.
getagrip_already
(14,864 posts)But fed laptops are encrypted and it would be difficult even for russia to crack it without the keys.
I'm not saying impossible, but it won't be a short process unless they have an active set of administrator level keys...
She is also missing. Wonder if she hopped a flight with an oligarch or on a trump sponsored flight.
ancianita
(36,139 posts)warrant, Apple gives it access to Pelosi cloud data, which NSA then uses to seize any and all other data, Pelosi's or otherwise.
It's interesting that she's disappeared so well that they can't find her.
getagrip_already
(14,864 posts)The hard drive is encrypted. The data is only accessible if a key card is inserted at startup. Pelosi presumably still has hers. Nobody leaves a cac card in their computer because it is their key to move around the building.
Without a decryption key, no data is accessible for any purpose.
So it isn't going to appear on the cloud without russian help. And they will still need a card with the proper authorization.
Hopefully she tries to get into the laptop. That ought to be funny.
Evolve Dammit
(16,778 posts)thucythucy
(8,089 posts)and it has not left the country.
I don't know anything about this technology, but I wonder if computers with anything classified wouldn't have a GPS locater that could be activated in case of theft. This would seem to be a reasonable precaution. The only way to dismantle such a homing device would be to destroy the computer entirely--which is maybe what's behind this FBI speculation?
I wonder if you might have any insights on this, since you seem at least somewhat familiar with this sort of thing.
ancianita
(36,139 posts)Total computer security is next to impossible if the NSA doesn't want it. So I don't know what clearance level Pelosi's allowed, but the problem could lie with her or the NSA and FBI not knowing if anyone somehow got hold of her encryption keys. Pure speculation. I've never read anything about 'GPS locators', so I don't know. If you have an info link on that I'd appreciate checking it out.
I wish I had insights beyond what history and whistleblowers have told us, but I don't.
Except to say that Russia lets Snowden live for reasons neither he nor Russia has revealed.
He acquired (but doesn't now have possession of) scripts of the codes of the systems of the NSA for 'collect it all' surveillance. He likely still knows more than 99.9% of the people in the NSA did at that time, and so he's had value. I'm in no way impugning his integrity, either. He did a lot of good for Americans that changed SCOTUS law about our standing when taking the NSA to court over our 4th Amendment rights. But the NSA can change its structures fast; and whether or not it's learned lessons, we can't really know.
Anyway, if anything in Pelosi's laptop is important to NSA secrets, which I think is far from the case here, we'll not know anything but 'official reports' the FBI gives us. That's it. We're wise to not operate from any other assumption than theirs, which is 'need to know' to the American public. Doesn't mean that the NSA hasn't set themselves above the Constitution; they have. They'll probably continue to while The Patriot Act and NDAA's exist.
What looks important is that the FBI is willing to let Americans think that this story is about Pelosi's laptop value, and that a named person committed a federal crime against her and, if they want to go further, America; but whatever we're told works to preserve NSA and FBI's institutional value. Not knowing the whole truth may not be a bad thing in a cyberwar with Russia, even if it's rumored that we started it.
IronLionZion
(45,544 posts)Plenty of laptops with national security data on them can automatically destroy the data if an unauthorized user is trying to access it.
IronLionZion
(45,544 posts)especially in dangerous places where a laptop could get into the wrong hands.
They don't store too much critical info on laptops for the second reason that hard drives can fail easily. So the cloud is important for backups.
ancianita
(36,139 posts)the land, so agencies can concentrate on cyber invaders. They've got so many layered systems that laptops are the least of their worries.
Which is why this story seems suspicious to me, more like a public distraction while other vulnerabilities get hardened up.
kozar
(2,137 posts)What the Russians got in their huge hack. They may well have the encryption keys.
Koz
getagrip_already
(14,864 posts)So they will need more than just a copy of the keys.....
magicarpet
(14,180 posts).... for the top secret info.
RVN VET71
(2,698 posts)Her life is ended. I hope she comes to understand as she watches time and prison devour he hopes and potential. I hope she comes to understand the deliberate lies and aberrant conspiracy theories that led her to throw away all chance at future happiness, and that she was not a patriot seeking to save the Republic, but a fool who fell easy prey, simple minded prey, to a racist cult of fascist lies and absurd fictions.
Youll be remembered, you poor, traitorous moron (if you are remembered at all) not as a patriot not even as a misguided rebel seeking to save the Republic. Nope.
Youll be remembered as a fool lured to a life-ending misadventure in an army of fecal-smearing killer monkeys.
Harker
(14,049 posts)That's a serious question.