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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 08:40 AM Feb 2021

Holy Koolaid: Revising God's Election Prophecy!

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Evangelical prophets predicted that Trump would win in 2020, and after pushing back the date that this would come to pass all the way to the inauguration date, they're still doubling down. Watch televangelist Sid Roth double down on a failed prophecy. Watch Pastor Greg Locke freak out and Kat Kerr have a screaming meltdown. Hank Kunneman, Lance Wallnau, Mario Marillo, and Dutch Sheets hedge and make excuses as to why the prophecy failed on the Victory Channel's show Flashpoint with Gene Bailey.

Even the prophets of YouTube, Albert Milton and Chris Yoon, make some pretty spectacular failed prophecies and then shift the goalposts on the failed Trump prophecy. Everyone from Eric Metaxas to Curt Landry, and Kenneth Copeland was invested in the prophetic claim that Trump would win a second term in 2020, and all of them got it spectacularly wrong.
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Holy Koolaid: Revising God's Election Prophecy! (Original Post) NurseJackie Feb 2021 OP
Problem is this won't make people stop believing that they have God in speed dial. Squinch Feb 2021 #1
Their arrogance is astonishing. thucythucy Feb 2021 #4
I'd like to get them all together in the SAME ROOM and listen to them... NurseJackie Feb 2021 #6
Have you ever seen the movie "The Ruling Class"? thucythucy Feb 2021 #8
Thank you for the summary. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2021 #2
Watching that was actually painful. thucythucy Feb 2021 #3
Indeed it was painful. That's a perfect description. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #5
I imagine it's desperation. thucythucy Feb 2021 #7
They are all charlatans who prey on the gullibles. Denvermosaic Feb 2021 #9
Those words in red. Matthew 7:15. safeinOhio Feb 2021 #10
Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NurseJackie Feb 2021 #12
did some who believe llashram Feb 2021 #11
That was very good. It shows them as a bunch of frauds Mr. Sparkle Feb 2021 #13
What's Totally Flabbergasting Is: I Don't See What the HECK They See in That Total POS Trump! panfluteman Feb 2021 #14
I'm with Bill Maher on this one Hulk Feb 2021 #15
These people don't want a PRESIDENT yuiyoshida Feb 2021 #16

thucythucy

(8,047 posts)
4. Their arrogance is astonishing.
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 10:09 AM
Feb 2021

Imagine believing (or trying to convince others to believe) that you have a personal hot line to the entity that supposedly rules the entire universe.

That's got to be about ten steps beyond simple narcissism.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
6. I'd like to get them all together in the SAME ROOM and listen to them...
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 10:19 AM
Feb 2021

... argue amongst themselves regarding which one is the TRUE prophet (profit?)

thucythucy

(8,047 posts)
8. Have you ever seen the movie "The Ruling Class"?
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 10:32 AM
Feb 2021

It stars Peter O'Toole and it's amazing, though a tad on the long side.

There's a scene where something like that happens. Peter O'Toole plays a paranoid schizophrenic who believes he's Jesus Christ. Another character is convinced he's "The God of Electricity" or something like that. Their psychiatrist brings them together to argue it out. Spoiler alert: it doesn't end well.

"The Ruling Class" is one of the darkest comedies ever, and was quite controversial back in the day. And O'Toole, as usual, is superb. I'd watch him in anything.

thucythucy

(8,047 posts)
3. Watching that was actually painful.
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 10:06 AM
Feb 2021

The mendacity, the pathos, the absolute refusal to accept reality--how are we to work around these people?

Add to it all the abysmal ignorance of history--the one "prophet" claiming that John Quincy Adams served two terms, the other "prophet" comparing Biden's win to Hitler invading Poland. In that case, if you follow the analogy he was making to its logical conclusion, what he's saying is he and his fellow "prophets" were the ones appeasing Nazism, which is the closest any of these charlatans come to the truth.

We had people like this in the town where i grew up. I never imagined they'd thrive to the extent they have, and come so close to their dream of turning this nation over to a Christo-fascist regime.

It's sad too how many vulnerable people fall for this claptrap.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
5. Indeed it was painful. That's a perfect description.
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 10:18 AM
Feb 2021
It's sad too how many vulnerable people fall for this claptrap.
The "prosperity gospel" ones are the worst. I don't understand how anyone could fall for the scam: "Give me your money, and god will make you as rich as me!"

thucythucy

(8,047 posts)
7. I imagine it's desperation.
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 10:26 AM
Feb 2021

I run into this in the disability community from time to time. Just one instance--a friend who was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, whose disease was progressing so that he knew he would eventually lose his ability to walk.

A Jesus group latched onto him and convinced him if he prayed with them (and gave them all his money) God would cure his disease.

Of course it didn't work. When that failed he found another cult--this one preaching some "Eastern" philosophy--instead of praying it was a chant he needed to repeat. Oh, and also, give us your money.

When none of this worked he was told it was his fault--his faith wasn't strong enough, his prayers weren't acceptable, and oh yes, he hadn't given them enough of his money.

It's understandable that people facing their own mortality will grasp at any straw. What's contemptable is how many people there are out there willing to exploit that desperation for their own gain.

safeinOhio

(32,674 posts)
10. Those words in red. Matthew 7:15.
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 11:12 AM
Feb 2021

"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves."

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
12. Deuteronomy 18:20-22
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 11:16 AM
Feb 2021
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2018%3A20-22

Deuteronomy 18:20-22
New International Version

20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.

21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed.

Mr. Sparkle

(2,932 posts)
13. That was very good. It shows them as a bunch of frauds
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 11:18 AM
Feb 2021

who profit from the poor and misfortunate. I would love to see the feds go after them, to end their scams.

panfluteman

(2,065 posts)
14. What's Totally Flabbergasting Is: I Don't See What the HECK They See in That Total POS Trump!
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 11:27 AM
Feb 2021

As the gospels say: Ecce Homo (Behold the man): He's a total POS - not just according to the Christian religion but also according to every major world religion there is!

But perhaps religion here is just being used to cloak naked racism, then things start to make a lot more sense. For all his spiritual, moral and governing policy failures, Trump has but one redeeming virtue - if you're a racist, that is - at least he's white.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
15. I'm with Bill Maher on this one
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 11:44 AM
Feb 2021

I was baptized and raised Catholic, and the fundamentals of my religious faith are based in that history. But I no longer believe or practice the mythical nonsense and doctrine from the spin meisters from the Vatican nut farm.

These butt holes are a part of the reason I no longer practice my faith in an organized “church”. There are Catholic priests and bishops just as fucked in the head as these phony hypocrites. I really hope there is a hell after this life they can spend eternity keeping warm down there (realizing that’s just as crazy as the crap that comes out of their mouths.😈

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
16. These people don't want a PRESIDENT
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 11:51 AM
Feb 2021

THEY wanta ever lasting leader, a dictator who would govern over them for life. Maybe they should pick a nice nation with a dictator to see how lovely it is to live under one. Not in my country, you wont!

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