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'I lost all touch with reality': Recovering QAnon believer shares harrowing experiences (Original Post) catbyte Feb 2021 OP
Critical thinking skills PirateRo Feb 2021 #1
I don't know. plimsoll Feb 2021 #5
Good point. Harker Feb 2021 #10
Good points yes, but you missed something PirateRo Feb 2021 #17
It is stunning. Harker Feb 2021 #19
I don't buy it either. Dustlawyer Feb 2021 #21
I felt that too. LakeArenal Feb 2021 #22
I need an agent, I just took the "You, too, can be a recovering Q-anon dupe!" course ... marble falls Feb 2021 #2
Is this just another crazy republican trumpeter trying to resurrect their career? Layzeebeaver Feb 2021 #3
Oh no the evil algorithm made me do it! Jetheels Feb 2021 #6
Some people are looking for something meaningful in their lives, they are lost, remember Jim Jones? Escurumbele Feb 2021 #14
Party of personal responsiblilty... cilla4progress Feb 2021 #4
I suppose it's a matter of perspective as to whether she Harker Feb 2021 #7
She did refer to some prior emotional trauma... Foolacious Feb 2021 #11
I'm all for using more charitable terms. Harker Feb 2021 #12
Oh shut up you plastic animatron. ret5hd Feb 2021 #8
I will not disparage someone who steps up and denounces their prior behavior Obvious85 Feb 2021 #9
Slower traffic keep right magicguido Feb 2021 #13
If she was black calling the police would have had a different outcome. lettucebe Feb 2021 #15
My Bullshit meter was clanging by the end of that interview. NoMoreRepugs Feb 2021 #16
Right with you PirateRo Feb 2021 #18
Do you have to shut it off at night to get some peace and quiet? Harker Feb 2021 #20

PirateRo

(933 posts)
1. Critical thinking skills
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 10:55 AM
Feb 2021

She had none? Impossible. She ignored them? Very possible.

I just don’t accept that people - adults - don’t know the truth. This is very much like fundies - they make the choice, every day, to accept poison and ignore reality.

plimsoll

(1,668 posts)
5. I don't know.
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 11:36 AM
Feb 2021

If you read some of the stuff that the people in the Texas school board said, and comments from fundamentalist or evangelical groups, they are opposed to teaching critical thinking skills. I think there’s even a quote about leaping to their own conclusions. Point is, just because you should as an adult have those skills, there is no reason to believe you can apply them in situations where you have been taught not to apply them.

Harker

(14,015 posts)
10. Good point.
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 12:40 PM
Feb 2021

With the increasing popularity of home schooling, where kids are largely taught what their parents want them to learn, I would think such skills will diminish with time.

PirateRo

(933 posts)
17. Good points yes, but you missed something
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 03:06 PM
Feb 2021

I grew up in a religious household and went to religious schools for 14 years. Yet, today, I reject what I was taught. In fact, my rejection started around age 8 years.

The missing item is the rest of the world. Critical thinking is part of the normal process of the brain. It helps to be taught this exists but you will naturally stumble into it. It may happen later in life than earlier, sure, but eventually, you run into someone like me. Someone who won’t be silenced and who will hoist a lamp to illuminate that darkness.

If not a person, it will be something else. If the individual chooses - and this is the key word here - chooses to ignore these inputs, they must actively do so every single time. The exception here may be a mentally challenged individual.

I don’t buy that she was somehow confused by it any more than I buy that Greene “was allowed to believe” - there comes a time as an adult when you must make a choice. So, these people choose willful ignorance. They aren’t fooled, they are deliberately choosing this.

The stunning part is that so many are so intellectually lazy that they exist surrounded by libraries, television, the internet and yet they chose this nonsense. That referral must be made to the American Psychological Association for diagnosis.

Harker

(14,015 posts)
19. It is stunning.
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 04:04 PM
Feb 2021

I've met Holocaust deniers, believers that there are alien lizard people, race supremacists, nationalists from many nations... just about every sort of adherent imaginable to some very unpopular and crackpot beliefs, and you're right that in most instances, these people chose to hold those beliefs.

Only a small number seemingly lacked the capacity for discernment and sound judgment on other matters, and all were to a great extent functioning adults. They were all, though, clearly lacking something.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
21. I don't buy it either.
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 04:41 PM
Feb 2021

She now has a book out? I believe she is an owner of a PR firm as well if memory serves. The cynical part of me suspects she planned this for the attention it has brought and the money she can make.

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
2. I need an agent, I just took the "You, too, can be a recovering Q-anon dupe!" course ...
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 10:57 AM
Feb 2021

... I had to check to see if this was from Onion.

Layzeebeaver

(1,623 posts)
3. Is this just another crazy republican trumpeter trying to resurrect their career?
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 11:13 AM
Feb 2021

My rough transcription:

She became brainwashed

She was having a complete mental break

Falling down the Qannon rabbit hole

It only took a matter of weeks for "The Algorithm" to hook her

It was a terrifying "Eco-chamber" (SIC)

It changed the way that she thought

Husband saved her life

Ongoing PTSD and Trama treatment

OH WAIT 4:38 SHE'S WRITTEN A BOOK!

Bla bla bla...

Her advice for others: people need to leave the cult on their own.

---

I don't know how to interpret this - I think its a person that was and still is slightly off-balance - her delivery seems forced. But she has found a way to profit from it all!

Escurumbele

(3,389 posts)
14. Some people are looking for something meaningful in their lives, they are lost, remember Jim Jones?
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 01:08 PM
Feb 2021

Some people are easily manipulated, and QAnon plays to those weaknesses. If people are concerned about children and QAnon provides "true stories" of Democratic pedophiles that starts igniting the feelings, then these people want to find out more, and when they least expected? They are hooked.

She is obviously a very intelligent woman, she expresses herself very well, but even intelligent people can fall for stupidity like that.

Now...the other side of the coin:

1. I want to write a book
2. I can act
3. I can put myself though some crap to get notoriety
4. Are you with me husband? Ok, lets do it.

That is my sarcastic side of it...but I do tend to believe the first one because I have some friends, they have not fallen for QAnon (not that I know), but they do believe some of the conspiracy theories trump threw out there. One of them even thought Pence would change the votes, even though I presented him with facts showing Pence could not do it. After reading those facts all he said was "we'll see come January 6th". Unreal...

Harker

(14,015 posts)
7. I suppose it's a matter of perspective as to whether she
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 11:59 AM
Feb 2021

"became brainwashed" and "fell" down the rabbit hole, or whether she was already maladjusted and jumped head first.

Foolacious

(497 posts)
11. She did refer to some prior emotional trauma...
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 12:48 PM
Feb 2021

that she'd never dealt with. I suspect that she was maladjusted in this sense -- "injured" would be a more charitable and perhaps accurate term -- and did take the bait: namely, the "save the children" line.

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
8. Oh shut up you plastic animatron.
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 12:11 PM
Feb 2021

Go invest in another round of lip injections. Privilege oozes from your every pore.

Obvious85

(259 posts)
9. I will not disparage someone who steps up and denounces their prior behavior
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 12:15 PM
Feb 2021

It's a rare thing these days, props to her

lettucebe

(2,336 posts)
15. If she was black calling the police would have had a different outcome.
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 02:07 PM
Feb 2021

Don't know any stories involving POC where someone doesn't end up shot or dead. Never yet heard of someone being taken in for "mental evaluation" except our Lady in White here.

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