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These 'Sovereign Citizens' Don't Believe They're Part of the US (Original Post) discocrisco01 Mar 2021 OP
Neither do I. Chainfire Mar 2021 #1
I remember them Tomconroy Mar 2021 #2
Then what are they doing here illegally eShirl Mar 2021 #3
I know this is a dumb question but (BTW I agree with you), where should we deport them to? alwaysinasnit Mar 2021 #4
Maybe being citizens without a country I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2021 #6
Thanks! alwaysinasnit Mar 2021 #7
The guy in the airport story I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2021 #8
Very interesting article. Thanks for sharing! alwaysinasnit Mar 2021 #9
They should go to Cuba rpannier Mar 2021 #13
Than they can leave I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2021 #5
Whew what a tangled pretzel logic lambchopp59 Mar 2021 #10
deny them all government services.... bahboo Mar 2021 #11
All the privileges Turbineguy Mar 2021 #12
Top of the list (and also the bottom line ... soldierant Mar 2021 #14
If they don't consider themselves U.S. citizens, why do they support Trump being sworn in as POTUS? Rhiannon12866 Mar 2021 #15
I deal with them on a daily bem6207 Mar 2021 #16

Chainfire

(17,515 posts)
1. Neither do I.
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 08:14 PM
Mar 2021

All of these idiots are Constitutional Scholars. Their day jobs may be making French fries, but the know more about the Constitution than all of the crooked judges combined. In plain language, they are damn fools.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
2. I remember them
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 08:26 PM
Mar 2021

When I was a public defender. It was all incredibly complicated, having to do with a treaty with Morroco, going off the gold standard, the ,14th amendment, somehow you had been bonded out by the federal reserve. The bottom line was you didn't have to pay your traffic tickets because the court had no jurisdiction. We'll, it's a thought.

alwaysinasnit

(5,063 posts)
4. I know this is a dumb question but (BTW I agree with you), where should we deport them to?
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 08:49 PM
Mar 2021

Yes, I am being facetious.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
6. Maybe being citizens without a country
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 09:04 PM
Mar 2021

Would do them good. Maybe they'd wish they never became "sovereign citizens". They would have to go live at an international airport in another country. That's where a person without citizenship anywhere lived for decades.

I heard his story years ago .. if I find it I will post it.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
5. Than they can leave
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 08:56 PM
Mar 2021

Find an island,buy it and name it dumbassland.

Hopefully all the resentful right wing nut jobs, quanon shitheads and stupid asshat trumpers,and all the kens and karen's and racist,sexist and trans/homophobes and christian Nazis can emigrate there.

If they try to come back,deny them and send them to a detention center packed like sardines than ship them back home to thier island.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
10. Whew what a tangled pretzel logic
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 10:24 PM
Mar 2021

"Murica too corporatist." an axiom I agree with.
So they want gub-mint to control that? All while singing the "deregulation" song. Um...
Some years back before there were better options in certain remote areas of the west to cross, I'd listen to that idiot Lush Rimbaugh, made me angry enough to stay awake. It would go like that. He'd start with something that made sense, then stretch it to an extreme, illogical conclusion. There was always an identifiable disconnect where his train of logic jumped the tracks, and the entire rest of his rant would be pure nutjobbery loaded with self-contradictions. Often talking about how he'd stop some progressive thing... cough... in the name of "freedom".
Between "the next thing ya know" and "whatabouts", Fox noise takes just a bit more cerebral involvement than many of the mesmerized audience is willing to invest, I suppose. Again the irony: "the next thing ya know", they're burning their masks in Idaho.
I've never gotten any solidly factual response from any of the MAGA's about exactly what it is Trump accomplished. Their answers come in rhetoric, a few try to twist themselves all out of shape to avoid appearing racist... then call it the "China" virus or blame all the nations ills on immigrants.
but they never fail to sound appallingly stupid and inexcusably cruel regarding children in internment camps, or even their own teaching them anti-science such a burning masks.

soldierant

(6,836 posts)
14. Top of the list (and also the bottom line ...
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 02:08 AM
Mar 2021

if they are not part of the US they do not get to vote. They have ZERO say in who is elected to what, least of all to the Presidentcy.

Now THOSE would be fraudulent votes. But not cast by Democrats, for sure.

bem6207

(66 posts)
16. I deal with them on a daily
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 11:57 AM
Mar 2021

Working for the Secretary of State, and they try to file UCC’s on themselves and present fabricated court orders granting their freedom from the government and wanting them to be certified (apostilled) for The Hague Convention countries. What kills me is they always have a valid driver’s license and birth certificate, but do not want to be acknowledged as a US citizen. They always make a point to say here’s my driver’s license, but I will be canceling them soon. 🤨 some of tolerable, but some get very hostile if you tell them no and want to argue about the law. Their interpretation of law is gibberish nonsense. Or a bunch of Malarkey 😂

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