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Surviving Narcissists and Psychopaths (Original Post) littlemissmartypants Apr 2021 OP
Watching! There are some great things about this on youtube. Dr. Ramani is one. She's amazing. Scrivener7 Apr 2021 #1
Excellent points! My first Dr. Ramani experience. The original music is also very nice. littlemissmartypants Apr 2021 #2
Not at that part yet. But watching these things, and coming to an understanding of them, is so Scrivener7 Apr 2021 #3
❤ nt littlemissmartypants Apr 2021 #4
The flying monkeys part WAS interesting. I think I was dimly aware of that, but Scrivener7 Apr 2021 #5
You're welcome, Scrivener7! Thanks for the convo! ❤ nt littlemissmartypants Apr 2021 #7
One of the best presentations I've appalachiablue Apr 2021 #6
Thanks appalachiablue. I thought his story was especially poignant. ❤ nt littlemissmartypants Apr 2021 #8
Didn't think people could be so entirely self absorbed and entitled... LakeArenal Apr 2021 #9
Exactly this... littlemissmartypants Apr 2021 #10
Had a "relationship" with a narc.... Heartstrings Apr 2021 #11
Soo many of us agree totally. LakeArenal Apr 2021 #12
LOL...... Heartstrings Apr 2021 #15
Bookmarked MustLoveBeagles Apr 2021 #13
My mother is a malignant narcissist. murielm99 Apr 2021 #14

Scrivener7

(50,941 posts)
1. Watching! There are some great things about this on youtube. Dr. Ramani is one. She's amazing.
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 08:07 AM
Apr 2021

Sad thing is that until you have dealt with one of these people, you don't really have any way to protect yourself from them.

littlemissmartypants

(22,631 posts)
2. Excellent points! My first Dr. Ramani experience. The original music is also very nice.
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 08:20 AM
Apr 2021

It's extremely difficult to wrap one's head around the idea of such twisted thinking. Maybe someone can be helped by watching it.

One thing I found interesting is the description of the "flying monkeys" close to the end.

The whole thing is very well done.

❤ pants

Scrivener7

(50,941 posts)
3. Not at that part yet. But watching these things, and coming to an understanding of them, is so
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 08:31 AM
Apr 2021

empowering. It makes you feel like the scales are falling from your eyes and you are sane again.

Another REALLY wonderful one is Joanna Kujath. She gets right to the core of it and makes it so clear, and then gives practical ways to deal with it. I can't recommend her enough.

Scrivener7

(50,941 posts)
5. The flying monkeys part WAS interesting. I think I was dimly aware of that, but
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 09:35 AM
Apr 2021

it was the first time I saw it explicitly described. Thanks again for this.

appalachiablue

(41,118 posts)
6. One of the best presentations I've
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 03:37 PM
Apr 2021

seen on this difficult topic- the impacted individuals and the practitioners esp. the man, very astute. K/R

LakeArenal

(28,814 posts)
9. Didn't think people could be so entirely self absorbed and entitled...
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 06:50 PM
Apr 2021

Until my best friend started a relationship with one. The lies and the half truths. The carrots they know to throw when they sense the other is drifting away. Their constant “ I don’t want to hurt anybody” when that’s all they do. The fact once they snag someone they can’t believe that they aren’t “friends” after a few years with their schtick.

But now that I can recognize one, I think about the difficult people I have met along the way. Realizing the people that steal all the oxygen out of the room are the ones that will suck the life out of you.

littlemissmartypants

(22,631 posts)
10. Exactly this...
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 09:58 PM
Apr 2021
the people that steal all the oxygen out of the room are the ones that will suck the life out of you.


Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
11. Had a "relationship" with a narc....
Sun Apr 4, 2021, 11:30 AM
Apr 2021

If I could send him one message it would be this:

“It was about you, it was always about you, it was always going to be about you, fuck you”

And that’s all I have to say about that.....

murielm99

(30,733 posts)
14. My mother is a malignant narcissist.
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 01:12 AM
Apr 2021

My middle brother and I were the most broken by it. We have both had quite a bit of therapy. Most of the time, we know how to push back and deal with her. We confer about it. We do not visit her. We try to avoid any contact other than a monthly phone call. She is 92, and she will never change.

My youngest brother lives as far away from her as possible, and avoids her. His contact with her is also minimal.

It took me a long time to understand what she is. I can still be affected by it if I am not careful.

My dad, now deceased, was her enabler.

Thank you for posting it. I needed some reminders.

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