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Rhiannon12866

(205,073 posts)
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 01:02 AM Apr 2021

The Daily Show - White Supremacy: The Rise and Spread in America



White supremacy has played a leading role in the development of the United States. Here’s a look at the full history.

00:00​ - THE LEGACY OF SLAVERY
01:28​ - THE HISTORICAL IMPLICATIONS
03:24​ - THE RESPONSE TO OBAMA
04:41​ - THE KKK SUPPORTS DONALD TRUMP
06:32​ - TRUMP LEGITIMIZES WHITE SUPREMACY IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
08:31​ - TRUMP REFUSES TO CONDEMN WHITE SUPREMACY
13:14​ - W. KAMAU BELL TALKS TO THE KKK
15:04​ - WHITE MALE MEDIOCRITY



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The Daily Show - White Supremacy: The Rise and Spread in America (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Apr 2021 OP
The last part about white male mediocrity... Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #1
Very good points, especially about President Obama Rhiannon12866 Apr 2021 #2
Yeah, it blows my mind. Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #3
I've often wondered how schools will deal with teaching this era in our history Rhiannon12866 Apr 2021 #4
I was semi-cheering for him during the GOP primaries... Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #5
I certainly never thought he had a chance, either Rhiannon12866 Apr 2021 #6
It was like a nightmare for me too. Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #7
I think I nodded off when we were being warned about Pennsylvania not looking good Rhiannon12866 Apr 2021 #8
Yes, a random person seemed preferable to me too. Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #9
I have Mary Trump's book and she wasn't exaggerating when she described Trump as "dangerous" Rhiannon12866 Apr 2021 #10
Some of them probably still believe that Trump... Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #11
Bookmarking for later. Duppers Apr 2021 #12

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
1. The last part about white male mediocrity...
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 01:23 AM
Apr 2021

... isn't quite accurate, from what I've personally observed.

Asians in this country often have a reputation for being hard-working and studious, at least currently, so there hasn't been as much animosity towards them being financially successful.

A lot of the white idiots bought into the idea of "welfare queens" from Limbaugh and his ilk, and they've stereotyped a dark skin color with never really earning their higher economic and social status. For example, Trump and others demanded to see Obama's transcripts at Harvard as if he didn't really earn his degree there. White cops might pull over a black man in an expensive car, assuming that he couldn't have possibly acquired it by honest means.

Those same dummies are often fooled into believing that wealthy white men worked SO HARD to become rich too, even when they've obviously had the privilege of being born into money and property.

My white parents and extended family, nor any of the other white families that I met, ever pushed the idea that just being white would result in greater rewards. Some of the racist families that I met, however, pushed the idea that black people would never work hard.

Edit: So many of them have also been totally fooled by the rags-to-riches myth in this country. It can indeed happen, but it's very rare and there's usually lots of good luck involved too. So they often ignore the extremely difficult task of being financially successful someday if you start out poor. They've ignored that reality among themselves, but also the millions of black people who never got an equal start in this country.

Rhiannon12866

(205,073 posts)
2. Very good points, especially about President Obama
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 01:36 AM
Apr 2021

Despite the fact that he was usually the smartest guy in any room. Contrast that with Trump who never worked for anything, his sister did his homework, a smarter fellow student took his SATs, a family favor got him into college, his Dad gave him millions to support his various businesses and he delegated "presidential" duties and policies to unqualified and bigoted appointees like Jared Kushner and Stephen Miller.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
3. Yeah, it blows my mind.
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 01:38 AM
Apr 2021

You've really got to practice at accepting myths in this country to reach the point that your own eyes and ears can't be trusted to reveal the truth.

Rhiannon12866

(205,073 posts)
4. I've often wondered how schools will deal with teaching this era in our history
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 01:42 AM
Apr 2021

If someone had come up with the Trump story as a movie plot, it would have been dismissed as way too bizarre to be believable.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
5. I was semi-cheering for him during the GOP primaries...
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 01:46 AM
Apr 2021

... because I assumed he had NO CHANCE of winning in a general election. To me, he was the death blow to the Republican party back in 2016.

Then I finally saw some early polls for him in a general election, and I just about crapped my pants.

Rhiannon12866

(205,073 posts)
6. I certainly never thought he had a chance, either
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 01:53 AM
Apr 2021

The MSM followed him at the expense of legitimate and experienced candidates, often making the news unwatchable since he was so ridiculous and offensive. I had dental surgery on election day 2016 and fell asleep in front of the TV watching the returns. I woke up at around 3am to see Trump standing there with his entire extended family and I kept thinking it must be a nightmare and I was going to wake up to the real news and a return to sanity.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
7. It was like a nightmare for me too.
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 02:04 AM
Apr 2021

I wasn't totally shocked by it, after following the polls so closely in the preceding months, but I still felt ill.

Then I recollected how I had laughed mockingly over his GOP success a year earlier.

I think it was when Clinton clearly had no chance to win Wisconsin that I knew it was over. There was no path to electoral college victory at that point, even if other purple states all went her way that night (and several
of them did not). So my depression started pretty early, even as the media was still mostly portraying it as an election that could go either way. I turned off my TV for awhile, then checked later to indeed see the orange a-hole celebrating with his family and supporters.

Rhiannon12866

(205,073 posts)
8. I think I nodded off when we were being warned about Pennsylvania not looking good
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 02:16 AM
Apr 2021

But I still didn't believe that Trump had a chance. Who would vote for this unqualified and offensive guy?? I'd had a reunion with a group of childhood friends the previous summer - and we no longer even live in the same part of the country. But we all agreed that we'd sooner vote for whoever was driving the next car that passed by than for Trump.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
9. Yes, a random person seemed preferable to me too.
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 02:26 AM
Apr 2021

I'd also read the personal accounts of Trump's behavior from people like Tony Schwartz, author of "The Art of the Deal", and his other biographers long before the election, and there was nothing in his campaigning which contradicted their descriptions of him as a narcissistic, sociopathic dummy with a short attention span. One of the other biographers was asked about when we'd finally see the "real Trump", as if he was carrying out a show to garner votes, and the guy insisted that was REALLY him that we saw on stage -- as the media kept pondering when Trump would start acting more "Presidential".

So even media members were clearly holding onto myths, not totally believing their own eyes and ears, while Trump was showing himself to the world.

Rhiannon12866

(205,073 posts)
10. I have Mary Trump's book and she wasn't exaggerating when she described Trump as "dangerous"
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 02:41 AM
Apr 2021

She's known him her entire life and has seen his behaviors, not to mention having heard about the harm he inflicted and his business shenanigans from other family members. Though her late father was Donald's older brother and stood to inherit equally as his siblings, Donald led the suit to disinherit both Mary and her brother. He needed money to pay creditors and squandered millions. As a qualified psychologist, she described a very disturbing profile, yet despite all the harm he inflicted and the insanity he unleashed, the fact that there are still those in this country who support him is as scary as it gets.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
11. Some of them probably still believe that Trump...
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 02:49 AM
Apr 2021

... is playing "3-D chess", or whatever dimension it's at now, like he's actually a genius.

They're certainly not "keeping it real" like I heard my black friends and coworkers say in the past.

Speaking of that, I can never fully put myself in the shoes of an African American in this country, but I strongly suspect that the stereotypes I previously mentioned might cause me to not even try to "get ahead" in this country. Like buying an expensive car, only to be accused of acquiring it through dishonest means. I'm personally not materialistic that way (focusing on the basics), but if I was... I'd probably just give up on the idea anyway.

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