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Rhiannon12866

(205,320 posts)
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 06:01 AM Apr 2021

Gaetz Case Renews Attention On GOP Fake Candidate Election Schemes: NYT - Rachel Maddow - MSNBC



Rachel Maddow explains how the sex trafficking investigation of Rep. Matt Gaetz has reportedly also touched on an apparent scheme to run a fake Democratic candidate in an election to help the Republican candidate by draining votes from the actual Democratic opponent. Aired on 04/09/2021.


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Gaetz Case Renews Attention On GOP Fake Candidate Election Schemes: NYT - Rachel Maddow - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Apr 2021 OP
ok, this is obviously slimey politics, rampartc Apr 2021 #1
That investigation will be interesting Dreampuff Apr 2021 #2
Good post. Dems be ware of imposters. onetexan Apr 2021 #3
in the days of the "old regular" democratic machine rampartc Apr 2021 #4
This appears to be a case of an illegally-funded sham candidate paid to run in order to siphon votes lapucelle Apr 2021 #7
It's not so much that Ghost candidates are running, gab13by13 Apr 2021 #5
Kanye West was a sham candidate for Drumpf. Marcuse Apr 2021 #6
Illegal Cheating; which means more charges. Lock em all up. magicguido Apr 2021 #8

rampartc

(5,407 posts)
1. ok, this is obviously slimey politics,
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 06:30 AM
Apr 2021

but independents and 3rd parties do have a right to run, and most candidates, even democrats , are known to misrepresent their positions.

countering this is a little difficult, as we don't want to provide free publicity for the fake candidates (don't underestimate the voter appeal of a known fake candidate, mickey mouse gets a countable number of votes in many elections, and "vermin supreme" has a perennial following in the new hampshire primary.)

i suppose i recommend solid positive campaigning by the real candidate with endorsements from known community leaders.

Dreampuff

(778 posts)
2. That investigation will be interesting
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 06:43 AM
Apr 2021

All candidates do have the right to run, but in South Florida they were afraid a man by the last name of Rodriguez was going to win so they chose a candidate with the same last name to confuse voters who didn't pay close attention. Needless to say, since the votes were split between the two with the same last name, the Republican candidate won. I believe this just happened in the November election.

rampartc

(5,407 posts)
4. in the days of the "old regular" democratic machine
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 07:00 AM
Apr 2021

we would all get sample ballots with the preferred candidate's ballot numbers in large boldface type. many of our candidates had colorful nicknames on the ballot as well.

the good ol' days, i suppose.

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
7. This appears to be a case of an illegally-funded sham candidate paid to run in order to siphon votes
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 09:02 AM
Apr 2021
Orlando man says he didn’t contribute to mysterious candidate in tight state Senate race

An Orlando man listed in state records as one of just four contributors to an independent candidate in last year’s hotly contested Florida Senate District 9 race says he’d never heard of her and didn’t give money to her campaign.

Jestine Iannotti, who did no campaigning and repeatedly declined interview requests, reported raising just $700 from four individuals, including one who told an Orlando Sentinel reporter this week he wasn’t registered to vote and had never made any political contributions. He said he didn’t know that a Division of Elections website lists his name and home address as the source of a $100 donation to Iannotti until a reporter showed it to him.

“I don’t know who she is,” Todd Karvoski told the reporter who visited his Orlando apartment.

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The Senate race in Seminole and Volusia counties featured a dark money group that funded a political committee that blanketed homes in Seminole and west Volusia counties urging residents to vote for her. Democratic state senators and members of Congress have called for Attorney General Merrick Garland to investigate the source of the money.

The group, Atlanta-based Proclivity, sent $550,000 to two committees that mailed ads to voters in three Florida Senate districts, including District 9. All of the ads touted shadowy NPA candidates with promises that might appeal to liberal voters, saying the independents would “fight climate change,” “hold the police accountable,” and “guarantee a living wage.”

Miami-Dade State Attorney Katherine Fernandez-Rundle’s office filed charges last month against the NPA candidate in one of the South Florida races, Alex Rodriguez, and former state Sen. Frank Artiles, who is accused of paying nearly $45,000 to Rodriguez to file to run for the Senate District 37 race as a “ghost candidate.”

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Iannotti’s other contributors included Eric Foglesong, who was arrested in 2019 after he was accused of stealing $20,000 from a political action committee related to Orange County Sheriff John Mina. He pleaded guilty to grand theft, a third-degree felony, in February 2020.

Foglesong, who couldn’t be reached for this story and has declined to comment on the matter in the past, is a registered Democrat. But in 2019, he contributed $1,000 to Brodeur, who returned the money a couple of weeks later. Last June, he gave $300 to Iannotti, records show.

Iannotti also reported a $200 contribution from Steven Smith of Seminole County. A woman who answered the door at Smith’s apartment and identified herself as his mother said she didn’t think her son gave money to any political candidates, saying “he has always had limited funds.”

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Filing false campaign finance disclosure reports, including reports that contain false information about contributors’ identities, is illegal, said Michael Morley, an associate professor of law at Florida State University.

“Outright fraud about contributors’ identities is generally rare; accidental omissions or other sorts of administrative or data entry mistakes can sometimes happen, particularly for campaigns collecting substantial amounts of money or inexperienced filers,” Morley wrote in an email to the Sentinel.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/os-prem-ne-jestine-iannotti-sweden-20210408-x574dxn4qndgfot6y4gwh5hkte-story.html

gab13by13

(21,337 posts)
5. It's not so much that Ghost candidates are running,
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 07:17 AM
Apr 2021

someone is putting up thousands of dollars in ads supporting them.

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