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piddyprints
(14,642 posts)This is why we cant have nice things. GOP is full of cretins like him.
I dont know how she stays so calm. Kudos to her. I had to stop watching.
CurtEastPoint
(18,639 posts)and said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kavanagh_(Arizona_politician)
jaxexpat
(6,818 posts)The efficacy of democracy is proportional to the percentage of citizens whose vote is cast and counted in any and all elections.
There is no "quality vote", serious vote or fatuous vote either, for that matter, there are only two types of votes, cast/counted and not cast/not counted. The QOP is, and has been for a long time, using every possible argument to convince a whole nation that some people shouldn't vote at all.
Theirs is the heart and soul of elitism. It corruptly justifies the anti-democracy concept that there are actual classes of citizen voters and that somehow the whole voting process is sullied when the lower classes are considered equal to the entitled classes.
Their rendering of judicious logic was epitomized by the the additional 3/5th vote granted to slaveholders for each slave they owned. There was, coincidentally, no question about the eligibility of free black men to vote, they simply couldn't. All neat and tidy and no harm done in the compartmentalized little shrivelizations they used for brains.
They haven't changed much since. They're still all about the expedience of fulfilling their perverse and often criminal need to convert any human interaction into a contest for obeisance.
So then, before us rears the whispered Brando-ism of a Colonel Kurtz, "THE HORROR, the horror."
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)Their belief system defies description or belief. "The Party Of Lincoln." *spit* It may be closer to what the Framers envisioned than we would like to believe, more than two centuries later, but I'd like to think they weren't being malicious. Just contemporaneous and unenlightened.
jaxexpat
(6,818 posts)lived in less complex times. The concepts we process in the course of a single day feature a mental and psychological stress that our founders would not have faced in their lives. Theirs were more along the lines of casual, life or death realities. Like small pox, pauperdom, cholera, disinheritance, fatal sepsis, starvation and the probability of wife-burying. The real heroes of our time, in comparison, are those who face most or some of those realities plus the daily norm of 21st century de-humanizations. Our immigrants: the Sudanese, Somali, Filipino(really with an F, no less), and in walking numbers, the central Americans at our borders. Our exasperated founders would throw up their hands in exasperation at such a concept, I'm afraid. The powerfully relevant thing they left us, even in their perverse version, is "one individual/one vote".
No doubt, democracy is the only solution that does not kill half of us all. There should be an altar somewhere, for all to see and experience, wherein democracy is ritually worshipped as mankind's only salvation. Where the trappings of all gratifications are sacrificed in the name of and in the honor of that most consequential god: survival.