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Wonder how Manchin is going to be affected by the release of this video. (Original Post) BigBearJohn Jul 2021 OP
Pride when speaking to West Virginians and self righteousness when speaking to the media??? RockRaven Jul 2021 #1
There were more Dems than Manchin. gab13by13 Jul 2021 #2
This is one of 2 root causes of most of our problems, legally bribing our representatives. Dustlawyer Jul 2021 #7
You said it, Dustlawyer. JudyM Jul 2021 #8
Don't know about Manchin... but that's a pretty silly video FBaggins Jul 2021 #3
yep quaint Jul 2021 #4
He does work for Exxon though, here is a link to his linkedIn Escurumbele Jul 2021 #5
No doubt... they're just trying to make more of it than is really there FBaggins Jul 2021 #6

RockRaven

(14,953 posts)
1. Pride when speaking to West Virginians and self righteousness when speaking to the media???
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 03:41 AM
Jul 2021


Past behavior, future behavior, predictive value, yadda yadda....

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
7. This is one of 2 root causes of most of our problems, legally bribing our representatives.
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 10:55 AM
Jul 2021

We fight for climate change legislation but not the thing that will make it successful. We fight for rational gun control, criminal justice reform, immigration… but not against what really prevents us from achieving these goals, campaign finance reform!

The media do not talk about this for a few reasons. One, they are the recipients of all of that campaign money. Two, the big donors are also the big advertisers. They will not advertise on a network that airs stories they don’t like. They will actually spew favorable propaganda for their advertisers to get public opinion behind their plans. This is the second root cause of our problems.

We can fight all of these individual issues and make little headway like we have been doing, or we can coordinate all of these causes/groups together and focus on these two root causes. If we were able to get the money out of elections and require truth from our news organizations we can return representative democracy back to the people and away from the oligarchs!

JudyM

(29,225 posts)
8. You said it, Dustlawyer.
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 11:36 AM
Jul 2021

Serious systemic flaws that are rotting our governmental infrastructure, intelligent civil discourse and ultimately, our planet.

I’d add voting infrastructure to your list (gerrymandering, SOS’s and legislatures acting with conflicts of interest re: fair elections, etc) plus DC should without a doubt have full congressional representation.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
3. Don't know about Manchin... but that's a pretty silly video
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 06:55 AM
Jul 2021

They’re trying to manufacture an under-cover feel to the investigation… but how ridiculous is it to wear a wire for a zoom call? And then do a “reconstruction” of the event?

Escurumbele

(3,386 posts)
5. He does work for Exxon though, here is a link to his linkedIn
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 09:37 AM
Jul 2021

[link:https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithwmccoy|

He apologizes there for allowing himself to fall for Greenpeace "deception"...the poor guy, how can he be deceived when that is his job, to deceive the public.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
6. No doubt... they're just trying to make more of it than is really there
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 10:47 AM
Jul 2021

I'm not sure that there's a single piece of information in there that is any mind-blowing news item. It's pretty much what we already knew the oil companies do.

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