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Dr. Eddie Glaude Jr. demolishes Christopher Rufo, Critical Race Theory opposer, on Morning Joe (Original Post) egbertowillies Jul 2021 OP
Great class in understanding "good uneducated" people. multigraincracker Jul 2021 #1
Actually, the disposability of people started in Euorpe Warpy Jul 2021 #2
Does the word 'slave' come from the name of the Slavic .. multigraincracker Jul 2021 #3
All of those cultures were well known to capture people on their frontiers Warpy Jul 2021 #4
The cruelty is still insufficient to his ilk. czarjak Jul 2021 #5
Rufo is playing games, of course. RVN VET71 Jul 2021 #6

multigraincracker

(32,674 posts)
1. Great class in understanding "good uneducated" people.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 12:13 PM
Jul 2021

I think I educated one a few weeks ago in the gas station down the street.
A man was complaining about not being able to get a job because he is White. I asked if didn't get the job because he was a white male. He said that was it. So, I asked him if now he knows how minorities and women have felt for the last 300 years. He got a confused look on his face and walked out. It boils down to walking in another shoes.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
2. Actually, the disposability of people started in Euorpe
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 12:22 PM
Jul 2021

The story of it in England is told in a book appropriately titled "White Trash," which details the various forces that depopulated the countryside and forced the landless poor into the cities, where they were crammed together and lived in subhuman conditions, becoming "trash" that had to be gotten rid of. Once Columbus bumped into the New World, their exportation began, either as indentured servants or transported prison labor. The book is an unsettling but easy read, link below.

During the slave years in the south, rich landowners though nothing of calling the people who had to settle for the least productive land "trash" to their faces. Losing the Civil War was the best thing that ever happened to the south's white underclass, they no longer had to compete with slave labor and entrepreneurship blossomed.

Classical, democratic Greece was the first to codify the existence of "natural slaves," people who were unfit to be free. That persists in the treatment of women.

The ruling hierarchy is terrified of teaching this stuff, they know damned full well it describes so much of what they've done to us over the centuries. Yes, Marx described part of it, but it's not exclusive to Marx and has nothing to do with Communism and Rufo needs to spend more time in the library, reading the books instead of just looking at the titles.

Link: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=white+trash&i=stripbooks&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

multigraincracker

(32,674 posts)
3. Does the word 'slave' come from the name of the Slavic ..
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 01:17 PM
Jul 2021

Yes, the English word slave traces its origin to Old French sclave that is from Medieval Latin sclavus which appear written for first time with this meaning in 13th century. The Latin word sclavus and the Byzantine Greek ???ά??? were used for the Slavic peoples from Late Antiquity.

https://www.quora.com/Does-the-word-slave-come-from-the-name-of-the-Slavic-people?share=1

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
4. All of those cultures were well known to capture people on their frontiers
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 01:56 PM
Jul 2021

in central Europe and use them as slaves. Slavery is how the world ran for millennia, people captured by armies or sold to settle debts.

This guess for the etymology is as good as any and better than most.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
6. Rufo is playing games, of course.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 04:36 PM
Jul 2021

What he is doing is trying to make it “reasonable” to consider any discussion of race and the horrors and long-lingering effects of slavery, any talk at all of it, as the theory, itself. It’s an old, old game, one played by demagogues and their acolytes from time immemorial.

Why is he attacking the teaching of critical race theory to kindergartners? Because 1) the fascist Right has decided to go after the Theory and all it represents, so all fascists are naturally inclined to lie about it and 2) the fascists are white supremacists who want to remain in power by convincing other whites that the Liberals want not to just “level the playing field” but to give blacks and other POCs every possible advantage in socio-economic society by fostering shame and guilt in the white community and, of course, legislating easy advancement for unqualified blacks. And Rufo is a fascist.

Rufo doesn’t sound like a fascist, but his argument comes right out of the fascist playbook.

(I am tired of restraining myself in using the term. The jackboots are being stockpiled throughout America and it’s time to stop feeling sheepish about calling fascism out for what it is, where it is, and whenever it rears its head.)

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