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Rhiannon12866

(205,317 posts)
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 04:00 AM Jul 2021

Judges ACCUSE Trump of MURDER in TROUBLING Report - Christo Aivalis



Donald Trump has been blamed by judges for the violent actions of his supporters, who are still risks to do more awful things because of Trump's lies. This shows that Trump continues to be a main threat to democracy and public safety.


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Escurumbele

(3,389 posts)
3. I don't know who this guy is, Christo Aivalis, but this is something I have been saying.
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 09:14 AM
Jul 2021

Vincent Bugliosi sent Manson to jail, not because he executed the murders personally, but because he was the mastermind of the assassinations, he planned it, and thus he was as culpable as those who committed the crimes. It is in his book "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder" that Bugliosi lays out the blueprint for GW's prosecution, and he uses the same law that was used against Manson to lay out the process.

[link:https://www.amazon.com/Prosecution-George-Vincent-Bugliosi-2008-05-06/dp/B019TLMQYI/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3SGTDS60DBKW0&dchild=1&keywords=the+prosecution+of+george+w.+bush+for+murder&qid=1626095273&sprefix=the+prosecution+of+%2Caps%2C189&sr=8-2|

In this book he explains how GW Bush, Chaney, Powel, Rumsfeld, et al are guilty of all the murders in Iraq, mainly of the USA soldiers. I am not a lawyer but I have to believe that the same can be applied here against trump, Rudy, Don Jr, Stone, etc., all who incited the mob and those who participated in the planning of it, they are all guilty of the murders and the deaths that occurred on January 6, 2021 during the insurrection of the Capitol, and let us not leave out the fact that they are guilty of treason as well.

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
5. Yes, but that doesn't justify the clickbait lie in the title
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 10:34 AM
Jul 2021

No judges have accused Trump of murder, even if he deserves it.

Escurumbele

(3,389 posts)
10. I am not disputing that, you are correct about that...
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 06:04 PM
Jul 2021

I am just wondering if, and this would not be only on trump's head, but all those republicans and conspiracy trolls about the vaccine should be held accountable for any deaths their misinformation may have and will cause.

I ask that because I am puzzled that no lawyer, or journalist has brought that up, there are laws that castigate that criminal behaviour, it is like telling people that it is safe to jump off a 10th floor and then people listening to that person and jumping to their deaths, the person who convinced the victim to jump would be guilty of murder, I don't see the difference with COVID denialists pushing people to believe their rhetoric.

Upthevibe

(8,042 posts)
6. Escurumbele....
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 01:20 PM
Jul 2021

After the 2000 sElection, Bugliosi also wrote an excellent article (for The Nation) called, "None Dare Call It Treason." It then became a small paperback book with additional information called, "The Betrayal of America."

I went through that book like a law student. I highlighted, ear marked, and wrote in the columns. I wish to Hell I knew where it was.

Escurumbele

(3,389 posts)
11. I am going to get that book, thank you for pointing out
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 06:07 PM
Jul 2021

I am not a lawyer but I love it, my wife always tells me I should have studied law instead, but she says it only when we argue

KS Toronado

(17,220 posts)
7. My crystal ball sees TFG telling the MAGAt crowd something that will incite them
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 03:17 PM
Jul 2021

to violence Aug 13th. He's been talking & talking about that day and his
standard MO tells us something is going to happen.

pressbox69

(2,252 posts)
8. Whatever Happens
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 03:39 PM
Jul 2021

Hope it happens to him this time and not an innocent like Heather Heyer R.I.P. or the countless that died because he branded Covid a hoax when he knew the truth all along.

Blue Owl

(50,356 posts)
9. I certainly don't mind this statement getting out there
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 05:45 PM
Jul 2021

and hopefully gaining some traction -- FF45 really is responsible for the deaths that happened on Jan. 6 and I would say the 600,000 (and counting) Covid deaths as well...

Golfcart von Bodybags is at least responsible for negligent homicide...

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