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Rhiannon12866

(205,346 posts)
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 03:24 AM Jul 2021

Rand Paul Threatens Fauci With Criminal Referral After Heated Clash - The 11th Hour - MSNBC



Rand Paul is now threatening Dr. Fauci with a criminal referral after their heated clash during a Senate hearing. We discussed that and more with Ashley Parker and Sam Stein. Aired on 07/20/2021.


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ancianita

(36,055 posts)
2. Agree that this could gain traction as a right wing supplement to the Big Lie.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 04:30 AM
Jul 2021

It's Trumpian bullshit to keep up fear and distrust of science and scientists, as part of the "deep state" to blame for MAGA deaths.

I like Williams' "Trumpian cultural straw man" description for Paul, who panders to the base's ignorance.
Cultural straw men are really the most commonly used dark money donors' tool in the corporate toolbox -- to hollow out government, then fill it with privatizers and racketeers.

Prosecuting some alleged evil intent of bench scientists probably won't even get investigations. Proving any chain of harm will be the legal hurdles for what looks to be a pretty weak Republican legal bench these days. Actual Wuhan lab research documents won't be forthcoming, so there's only competing expertise to line up. Last but not least, a DOJ with a full plate right now will likely sit on that referral through at least one election cycle.

Rhiannon12866

(205,346 posts)
3. Good analysis. And I agree with Brian Williams, too.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 04:44 AM
Jul 2021

Rand Paul is using his office to continue the Trumpian meme of dismissing and undermining truth and science. Dr. Fauci is only his convenient target - Paul just took up where TFG left off, sidelining important information - as TFG did during those insufferable Covid press conferences - to dismiss and obfuscate important medical information. He may well have an agenda.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
5. Snowflake
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 05:27 AM
Jul 2021

He can dish it out but can’t take it.

Just another ivory tower repuke that thinks he’s above reproach

He’s around suck ups all day and gets offended when called out on his bullshit

Ford_Prefect

(7,897 posts)
6. A bully is a bully, is a bully...and often a whiner as well.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 06:34 AM
Jul 2021

They can only maintain their power by escalating their threats.

They can't deal with being challenged on any level.

JohnSJ

(92,190 posts)
7. While Fauci put Paul in his place, that harassment by Paul should have never been allowed, and
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 07:10 AM
Jul 2021

it is way past due why that is even allowed to happen

He should be shut down immediately whenever he does that sh*t

Rhiannon12866

(205,346 posts)
8. I agree, he's always mouthing off and harassing a witness has to be against the rules
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 07:14 AM
Jul 2021

Rand Paul needs to be censured himself, we know he's done this before.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
9. He's right, Rand Paul was engaging in a pissing contest
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 10:44 AM
Jul 2021

and trying to score points for King Dumdum, what a good little vassal he is., trying to play"gocha." It's too bad Dr. Fauci let him have it, it might have been better had he patiently explained that some US researchers traveled to that lab to participate in coronavirus research and were funded by NIH grants BUT THE LAB WAS NOT. It's just tough to get through to an ignorant man who insists on talking over anything that doesn't echo some stupid Republican talking point.

Dr. Fauci made him look like a Pox News wannabe and a twerp, both of which he likely is.

Sen. Marshall was even funnier, in a way, with his plastic model of the coronavirus spike, asking about protein sequences and obviously having little idea beyond having skimmed a research paper that was later retracted about what they represented. Fauci was a little more patient with him (hey, this guy can read, at least) but Marshall was really peeved that his gotcha didn't work, either.

Republicans just don't know how to cut their losses and STFU.

malthaussen

(17,195 posts)
10. Sorry, dude, "Seditious Libel" is not a thing anymore...
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 01:57 PM
Jul 2021

... I'm sure that breaks your autocratic little heart.

-- Mal

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
11. I imagine a similar scene played out when Galileo sat before the Roman Inquisition
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 02:21 PM
Jul 2021

and had to field ignorant and venemous questions from pedophile cardinals who knew nothing of science but wanted to roast another free thinking scientist at the stake.

(Galileo, of course, refused to give them their sacrifice. Unlike Girodano Bruno, another brilliant scientist-philosopher of the time, he recanted and lived out his life under house arrest. Bruno refused to recant and suffered terribly in consequence.)

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