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Rhiannon12866

(205,664 posts)
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 03:51 AM Aug 2021

Could There Be Another Armed Insurrection? - The Mehdi Hasan Show



New research from political scientist Robert Pape finds “the insurrectionist movement is continuing, larger, and more dangerous than previously assessed.” Pape walks Mehdi through the threat and what can be done to stop it. Aired on 08/09/2021.


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SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
3. Very true
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 05:40 AM
Aug 2021

But, imho, they should not ever have been allowed to scale tge building or enter it, nuch less casually just walk away.

Now judges are allowing bail & even approving vacations for those awaiting trial.

This only serves to embolden them.

Rhiannon12866

(205,664 posts)
4. That's the thing, they showed up because they were asked to, and they are even more guilty
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 06:11 AM
Aug 2021

And you're completely right! What idiots are letting violent rioters go on vacations?!

NJCher

(35,691 posts)
5. Mehdi said
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 07:14 AM
Aug 2021

He would like to meet with Democrats who support trump in his movement. I recently had lunch with four people who take that position. I know it is hard to imagine but it is true. I will write up that experience and post it here. Yes, people who are registered Democrats.

gab13by13

(21,371 posts)
7. There can be no good reason
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 07:25 AM
Aug 2021

unless they are either super rich, or racist or misogynist or bigoted, or extremely stupid and gullible.

Rhiannon12866

(205,664 posts)
9. I honestly can't imagine anyone supporting Trump, he's that offensive and harmful
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 07:47 AM
Aug 2021

An I have seen the clips of people who continue to talk him up, but I can't imagine why. And he's not an actual Republican - he's been a Democrat, a Republican and an Independent, whatever suits his purposes at the moment. But he has no political beliefs or philosophy, his only aim is to do whatever benefits him personally and gets him the most unearned money.

gab13by13

(21,371 posts)
6. Let's cut to the chase,
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 07:22 AM
Aug 2021

I have voted Democratic all of my life, I'm 74, but I am not a patient person. Someone explain this to me; George Tanios, one of the coup insurrectionists, owns a sandwich shop and calls himself the sandwich Nazi. Well old George while storming the Capitol sprayed 3 officers with some sort of chemical spray, one of the officers he sprayed was Brian Sicknick. Now to my question; someone explain to me why a DC Circuit Court of appeals, 3 judge panel, just released the Nazi from jail who is awaiting a court appearance. The panel ruled that incarcerating the self proclaimed Nazi was too harsh.

When I see this happening to the lower tier insurrectionists it gives me no hope that the top tier people will be held accountable. Someone explain to me why I am wrong?

Then I hear Dick Durbin who heads the Senate committee who just interviewed Jeff Rosen, not under oath, who proceeded to explain what we all already knew, that MF45 was behind the coup. Durbin made sure when asked by a reporter to not say the word coup. Not to worry, after the Senate committee does its interviews, it is going to issue a report. So I am being told to relax because we don't know what DOJ is or isn't doing. I know this much, there is no grand jury convened.

I'm just sick of this shit.

gab13by13

(21,371 posts)
8. I love Mehdi,
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 07:32 AM
Aug 2021

he calls em like he sees em. He would get alerted on if he posted here by a few people. He also wants to know why a grand jury hasn't been convened yet?

The Senate committee, the select committee, can only investigate, it takes the DOJ to investigate and indict. Those committees can turn over their investigative information to the Feds if the Feds do an investigation.

I am waiting for the House select committee to request someone to testify who is going to ignore a subpoena so that the case gets resolved in court which will set a precedent for others who refuse to honor a subpoena. Before you know it it will be Kornacki time.

hadEnuf

(2,198 posts)
11. I think we should expect another issurection.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 09:00 AM
Aug 2021

Not withstanding the possibility of targeted assassination attempts and / or simultaneous stormings of government buildings and areas. There are now some politicians and public office holders who are openly advocating for insurrection and the overthrow of the government. We need to listen to what they are saying and quit putting our heads in the sand. I don't think we will only be dealing with the unorganized mobs next time around. This is real.

These fascists have never been this close to having power than they are right now and they are not going to simply walk away because it's the right thing to do.

bucolic_frolic

(43,215 posts)
13. Absolutely, it was like a tailgate party with jousting, axe-throwing, camaraderie, paranoia, danger
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 10:10 AM
Aug 2021

It juices their loins but good

amcgrath

(397 posts)
16. We need to cut this line of bullshit.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 08:45 PM
Aug 2021

We’re those average Trump supporters who attacked the Capitol overwhelmingly white middle class people in their 40s?

Or were they Trump supporters able to take weekdays off, with enough money to spend a couple of thousand each on flights and hotels. Old enough that their kids have either left home or are old enough to be left home alone?

This 'study' is too ridiculous. The fact that it keeps being repeated is embarrassing

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