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EarlG

(23,633 posts)
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 11:15 AM Nov 2021

Pic Of The Moment: Self-Defense Arguments Then Vs. Now





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Pic Of The Moment: Self-Defense Arguments Then Vs. Now (Original Post) EarlG Nov 2021 OP
Sad but true Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2021 #1
Oh and wait until you hear the latest BS from the MAGAs! Initech Nov 2021 #2
No, I can't make this shit up... dchill Nov 2021 #8
I'm surprised they weren't pedophiles *and* Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2021 #21
Everyone's a pedophile if you're a member of the cult. Initech Nov 2021 #23
There is an unsettling correlation between this horror show... BobTheSubgenius Nov 2021 #3
adding two words for you YoshidaYui Nov 2021 #4
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Nov 2021 #5
Yep. dalton99a Nov 2021 #6
This visual should be the prosecutor's closing argument. sop Nov 2021 #7
I'm still amazed the the police of Kenosha allowed this kid to walk the streets with that gun Ohioboy Nov 2021 #9
Not to nitpick, but wasn't the rifle stored at his friend's house in Wisconsin? NickB79 Nov 2021 #10
Yes. TwilightZone Nov 2021 #12
HE crossed state lines Skittles Nov 2021 #17
Same with the guy who was shot in the arm. The one who had the pistol. Kaleva Nov 2021 #19
he used an illegally purchased weapon? Skittles Nov 2021 #20
He was illegally carrying a concealed weapon. Kaleva Nov 2021 #22
Doesn't self defense go both ways? Ohioboy Nov 2021 #11
I do believe you could have two people argue self defense in the same incident PTWB Nov 2021 #14
Putting yourself in harm's way deliberately so you can claim self defense? Aussie105 Nov 2021 #13
K&R LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2021 #15
there are DUers defending that double-murdering bastard Skittles Nov 2021 #16
We also need to talk about the guy who illegally carried a concealed gun at the riot Kaleva Nov 2021 #18

Initech

(108,783 posts)
2. Oh and wait until you hear the latest BS from the MAGAs!
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 12:52 PM
Nov 2021

Now they're trying to say that Joe Biden is the real racist and that Kyle Rittenhouse shot and killed two convicted pedophiles. You cannot make this shit up!

BobTheSubgenius

(12,217 posts)
3. There is an unsettling correlation between this horror show...
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 12:54 PM
Nov 2021

...and that of the one that cost Trayvon Martin his life.

YoshidaYui

(45,415 posts)
4. adding two words for you
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 12:58 PM
Nov 2021

will be in danger so I can shoot people in the street (for fun) and get away with it.



I guess he thought it was going to be like the game
GRAND THEFT AUTO ..,maybe he should have stayed home and shot people on the screen than in real life with a gun that was cool!
I have a samurai sword, i would never go out in the streets to kill people . rather kill MONGOLS in Ghost of Tsushima or Monsters in Monster Hunter!!!

sop

(18,626 posts)
7. This visual should be the prosecutor's closing argument.
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 01:50 PM
Nov 2021

AR15s (or AK47s) in the hands of brainwashed children used to be part of the horrors shown by tv war correspondents, reporting from bloody, third world hellholes like Somalia. Now it's being normalized in America.

Ohioboy

(3,893 posts)
9. I'm still amazed the the police of Kenosha allowed this kid to walk the streets with that gun
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 03:54 PM
Nov 2021

NickB79

(20,356 posts)
10. Not to nitpick, but wasn't the rifle stored at his friend's house in Wisconsin?
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 06:03 PM
Nov 2021

He had his friend purchase it for him (which is a felony), but it stayed on his friend's property until that night, I believe. So it never crossed state lines at least.

Skittles

(171,717 posts)
17. HE crossed state lines
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 12:23 AM
Nov 2021

not the weapon

he went out of his way to put himself in danger because he was aiming for violence

Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
19. Same with the guy who was shot in the arm. The one who had the pistol.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 06:54 AM
Nov 2021

While he didn't cross state lines, he was clearly aiming for violence.

Ohioboy

(3,893 posts)
11. Doesn't self defense go both ways?
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 06:21 PM
Nov 2021

I always wonder about the whole "I feared for my life because he was trying to get my gun" defense. Could it not be argued that grabbing a gun could be the direct result of someone fearing for their life and trying to disarm the person with the gun?

If someone had a gun up to me I could very easily see myself reflexively trying to push it out of the way, especially if that person was not actual law enforcement.

I don't know, but I'm always a little suspect when the armed person who initiated the conflict insists they were the ones fearing for their lives.

I'm talking mostly to the Ahmaud Arbery case.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
14. I do believe you could have two people argue self defense in the same incident
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 09:32 PM
Nov 2021

And both could be right, under certain circumstances.

Aussie105

(7,923 posts)
13. Putting yourself in harm's way deliberately so you can claim self defense?
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 08:43 PM
Nov 2021

Seems a smart way to go!

Young UM (Untrained Minor) thought he would be hailed a hero!

Instead, he is in court crying fake tears because . . . well, victim mentality, no insight into the consequences of his behavior, fear of going to jail . . . typical immature teenager in other words.

Shame people had to die. Waste of life. But, gun culture and all that.

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