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250 Mile Tornado Storm Track. A Record Breaker (Original Post) magicguido Dec 2021 OP
Good grief! calimary Dec 2021 #1
Incredible!! nt Duppers Dec 2021 #2
Mets who specialize in severe weather BumRushDaShow Dec 2021 #3
Kicking for visibility. love_katz Dec 2021 #4
Holy crap!! mountain grammy Dec 2021 #5
The key is "severe weather" and "emergency alerts" LeftInTX Dec 2021 #7
Yes, basements and storm shelters are becoming much less common mountain grammy Dec 2021 #9
The key is "The longest lived mesocyclone with numerous tornado warnings" LeftInTX Dec 2021 #6
I live just 100 miles north of the path AwakeAtLast Dec 2021 #8
Glad you're safe.. mountain grammy Dec 2021 #10
Thank you! AwakeAtLast Dec 2021 #11
watching this llashram Dec 2021 #12

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
3. Mets who specialize in severe weather
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 09:53 AM
Dec 2021

will be analyzing that for years!




NWS Weather Prediction Center
@NWSWPC
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Dec 11, 2021
Replying to @NWSWPC
The longest lived mesocyclone with numerous tornado warnings moved through multiple states, shown in this graphic by @ATXHarrisonTran & currently on wikipedia. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Radar_collage_of_a_long-lived_supercell_radar_on_December_10-11,_2021.png
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NWS Weather Prediction Center
@NWSWPC
It will take days for the necessary surveys to be done by @NWSLittleRock, @NWSMemphis, @NWSStLouis, @NWSPaducah, @NWSLincolnIL, @NWSLouisville & others to determine the scope of the possible outbreak and the strength/path length of the tornadoes that touched down.
6:44 PM · Dec 11, 2021



LeftInTX

(34,302 posts)
7. The key is "severe weather" and "emergency alerts"
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 11:26 AM
Dec 2021

Radar identified tornadoes are not always "on the ground" continuously and they are not extremely wide. Also many times they do not hit major population centers.

I'm also amazed that the death toll wasn't much higher, mainly because it was night.

Death tolls from tornadoes have gone way down in the last 70 years, due to improved radar, Emergency Broadcast, Emergency Alert System, improved early prediction of severe tornadoes, definition between tornado emergency and tornado warning. Today's warnings are often geographically very specific. For instance a large swath might be under severe thunderstorm warnings with tornado watches, however a tornado warning area is often more geographically specific. This small area warning saves lives.

There are now also attempts by the NWS to distinguish between radar defined tornados (tornado warning) versus tornado on the ground. (Tornado warnings are sometimes ignored by citizens because the majority of warnings do not result in tornadoes on the ground and/or the on-ground portion is very short-lived). Nowadays debri fields are often picked up on radar, which indicate a particularly dangerous tornado on the ground.

On the downside, basements are becoming less common in construction.

mountain grammy

(29,035 posts)
9. Yes, basements and storm shelters are becoming much less common
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 12:49 PM
Dec 2021

as they will be needed more and more.. hopefully that will be addressed in the rebuilding process as most assuredly this is not a one time event.

LeftInTX

(34,302 posts)
6. The key is "The longest lived mesocyclone with numerous tornado warnings"
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 11:14 AM
Dec 2021

Tornados are known to move in and out of clouds and often become a series of tornadoes as a opposed to a single tornado.

Today the NWS counts a single tornado by the damage/debri pattern on the ground. In the past, multiple tornados were often attributed to a single tornado.

This tornado outbreak will go down in history as the absolute worse December outbreak in history. It may also be the worst nighttime outbreak in US history.

There are other record breaking outbreaks such as the 1974 and 2011 outbreaks.

AwakeAtLast

(14,315 posts)
8. I live just 100 miles north of the path
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 12:06 PM
Dec 2021

And there were secondary tornadoes north of us!

I feel incredibly lucky today.

I also feel profound sadness for those in this storm's path.

mountain grammy

(29,035 posts)
10. Glad you're safe..
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 12:53 PM
Dec 2021

it's like our forest fires, hit and miss. Those hit are devastated and those of us missed are incredibly lucky. We have to be there for each other.

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