Is Long Covid Even Real?

[Tomconroy]

The answer is there is probably something out there, but at this point it's kind of hard to say what.




https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/962479

[Scrivener7]

1. He isn't saying what you are saying. As he says, long covid definitely exists. And as

he says, this study was of patients who were tested by a test that experiences significant false positives and false negatives.

It would be very unfortunate, as the doctor says, if this study were used by people to suggest long covid does not exist.

[Tomconroy]

3. I didn't say it doesn't exist. I agree with everything the doctor says

[bottomofthehill]

2. I know this, I was exhausted for weeks after I was Covid free

I would come home from work, eat, fall asleep and wake up and go to work. I was sleeping close to 12 hours a night and more on the weekend and was exhausted when I was awake. It was close to 3 months after I had Covid that I was back to sleeping 7 hours a night.

[Travel Hat]

4. This is a story about a former colleague of mine

https://www.rrstar.com/story/news/healthcare/2020/07/23/rockford-manrsquos-long-road-to-recovery-shows-covid-19rsquos-lasting-dangers/114337452/

[Tomconroy]

5. Lingering symptoms are common to many respiratory illnesses.

We don't say people have long pneumonia.
To what extent there is a lingering illness unique to Covid has yet to be determined.

[Phoenix61]

8. Long haul syndrome is affecting people

who have even mild cases of Covid. Thats not at all what happens with pneumonia.

https://health.ucdavis.edu/newsroom/news/headlines/studies-show-long-haul-covid-19-afflicts-1-in-4-covid-19-patients-regardless-of-severity/2021/03

[Tomconroy]

13. Subject needs much more real scientific study.

[Phoenix61]

15. UC Davis isn't real enough for you?

“UC Davis Health’s Post-COVID-19 Clinic has seen 130-140 long haulers, many who had very mild COVID cases.“

[Tomconroy]

16. No. That sentence tells you basically nothing.

[Phoenix61]

17. Again, UC Davis isn't real enough for you? nt

[Tomconroy]

18. I answered you. Stop being rude.

[Phoenix61]

19. Did you even bother to read the article?

I don’t think you did.

[Tomconroy]

20. The study has the flaws outlined in the NPR article.

[Tomconroy]

21. To give a more detailed answer: because there is no definition

Of long Covid, the study seems to conflate someone who has an actual long term disabling condition with someone who has a minor lingering symptom for a couple of months.

[appalachiablue]

6. Two articles re the mystery illness & scientific research:

- NPR, 'What Causes Long COVID Is A Mystery. Here's How Scientists Are Trying To Crack It.' Sept. 20, 2021. https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1030723370
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- Science, 'Study of up to 40,000 people will probe mysteries of Long Covid.' Award $470 mill from NIH will enroll volunteers w/ long-term symptoms after coronavirus infection.' Science, Sept. 15, 2021,
https://www.science.org/content/article/study-40-000-people-will-probe-mysteries-long-covid

[Tomconroy]

7. This is an NPR article that points out some of the flaws in

studies that we to claim some enormous portion of people.infected with covid suffer some unique condition.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/11/18/1055071699/coronavirus-faq-what-is-long-covid-and-what-is-my-risk-of-getting-it

Maybe the study cited in your articles will provide real answers.

[WHITT]

9. More Than A Million Americans

are categorized as having long-haul covid medical issues after recovering.

[Tomconroy]

10. Step number one will be a definition of long Covid which would

indicate it is different from symptoms associated with many respiratory illnesses.

[WHITT]

11. Except

Different people have different medical issues after recovering, and they're certainly not limited to respiratory illnesses.

[Tomconroy]

12. They are going to spend a billion bucks to try to figure it out

and that will be money well spent.

[WHITT]

14. ...

[FakeNoose]

22. So many of the Covid deaths (including the unvaccinated deaths)

... were actually long-hauls that didn't make it. It makes one wonder whether it's better to survive Covid and have these lingering effects, or is it better just to succumb and be done with all of it? I don't know the answer because luckily I haven't been infected. But it's certainly a DAMN GOOD REASON to get vaccinated, and not become a long-haul.

The cost of the long-haul effects of Covid will break our insurance system, unless we make rapid changes to how this will be paid for. Just sayin'