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Really? Have you read the news lately? Scrivener7 Dec 2021 #1
No, did I miss something? Is my student loan debt forgiven? peoli Dec 2021 #5
Yes. You do have to pay back on that money you borrowed. Scrivener7 Dec 2021 #10
Did you hear Joe Biden promise to forgive 10k of student loan debt? peoli Dec 2021 #16
That claim is simply false LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2021 #21
It's literally right here peoli Dec 2021 #22
Did you watch the video? LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2021 #27
Did you notice that he already delivered on that promise? Did you hear that Scrivener7 Dec 2021 #31
Here we go Fullduplexxx Dec 2021 #2
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People are fickle. We can't run on "Remember how bad it was when Republicans had power?" ck4829 Dec 2021 #3
Well, it would be helpful for him to re-implement the freeze on payments a bit longer. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #4
Biden has extended it, at least once, maybe twice. AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2021 #37
Yes, exactly. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #39
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I told my Nephew (who is wanting/expecting his loans to be forgiven) to walkingman Dec 2021 #8
somebody doesnt understand how democracy works. mopinko Dec 2021 #9
This exactly. Scrivener7 Dec 2021 #11
He needs a pen and piece of paper according to Elizabeth Warren. Is she lying? peoli Dec 2021 #12
she's exaggerating. he needs legislation. mopinko Dec 2021 #45
Shh... Don't want to upset the performative outrage AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2021 #13
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Stop trying to gaslight me by saying this issue isn't important. Shame on you peoli Dec 2021 #15
Poor thing. They're all gaslighting you. And you have to pay on the money Scrivener7 Dec 2021 #34
This ☝️☝️☝️ dixiechiken1 Dec 2021 #41
+1 Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2021 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author jalan48 Dec 2021 #17
Get your facts straight before posting! President Biden forgave as much student debt that he could PortTack Dec 2021 #18
Not according to Elizabeth Warren peoli Dec 2021 #23
What else can he forgive "according to Elizabeth Warren"? George II Dec 2021 #28
Try bitching and Manchin and Sinema they are the ones that are throwing up roadblocks against..... usaf-vet Dec 2021 #19
This claim is simply false-Joe never promised this LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2021 #20
He promised 10k right here peoli Dec 2021 #25
Can you direct us to where/when/how he "promised" student loan forgiveness? I'll wait, thank you. George II Dec 2021 #24
Sure peoli Dec 2021 #26
Here are the facts LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2021 #29
Please watch the video again, especially the first 20 seconds or so. He proposed to the House and... George II Dec 2021 #30
This takes congressional action LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2021 #33
Ssh... The pony patrol has its marching orders AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2021 #38
You know who did my loan forgiviness Historic NY Dec 2021 #32
Breaking News: "Biden Has Cancelled $11.5 Billion Of Student Loans.... George II Dec 2021 #35
Biden pledged to forgive $10,000 in student loan debt. Here's what he's done so far LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2021 #36
From someone who has student loans: Biden has done more on forgiveness than Trump or Obama. Hamlette Dec 2021 #40
My gawd, there is so much misinformation out there . .... Lovie777 Dec 2021 #42
did you hear you promised to pay back the money before they gave it to you? nt msongs Dec 2021 #44
Disinformation. Unrec n/t emulatorloo Dec 2021 #46
 

peoli

(3,111 posts)
5. No, did I miss something? Is my student loan debt forgiven?
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:42 PM
Dec 2021

I know I have to start paying again next year

 

peoli

(3,111 posts)
16. Did you hear Joe Biden promise to forgive 10k of student loan debt?
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:03 PM
Dec 2021

Did youbhear that news? It came out of his mouth

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
31. Did you notice that he already delivered on that promise? Did you hear that
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:26 PM
Dec 2021

news? If not, it appears you are really not paying attention even though you appear to be telling us the matter is very important do you.

So pay attention from now own.

Response to Fullduplexxx (Reply #2)

ck4829

(37,761 posts)
3. People are fickle. We can't run on "Remember how bad it was when Republicans had power?"
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:36 PM
Dec 2021

We’re going to need things of substance to bring to the table.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
4. Well, it would be helpful for him to re-implement the freeze on payments a bit longer.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:38 PM
Dec 2021

I have a friend who was grateful for the freeze tfg implemented. Probably the only good thing he ever did. A shame Biden hasn’t extended it.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
37. Biden has extended it, at least once, maybe twice.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:43 PM
Dec 2021

But I agree he should extend it once more- shit's about to get bad again.

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walkingman

(10,865 posts)
8. I told my Nephew (who is wanting/expecting his loans to be forgiven) to
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:52 PM
Dec 2021

buckle down and get out of school ASAP. He uses the loans to live on and only takes the minimum classes to qualify. Now is a great time to graduate with so many jobs available - that is not always the case. In the 70's there were PHDs driving taxi because there were not many jobs available.

The best way to eliminate debt is not to get it in the first place.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
9. somebody doesnt understand how democracy works.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:54 PM
Dec 2021

if someone pledges to tackle a problem on the campaign trial, and you take that as a promise, that's on you when you are disappointed. that's not how this works. he isnt the king.

it's in the bill, he and the dems in congress are doing everything they can.
if you dont know why it isnt getting done, i dont think you are paying close enough attention.

sorry you have to keep paying while this gets straightened out, but forgive me for thinking this is in line behind a lot of more pressing problems. like, ya know, the plague, or kids drinking tainted water and wrecking their brains, or addressing maternal mortality, people getting thrown out of their homes. and democracy.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
45. she's exaggerating. he needs legislation.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 04:42 PM
Dec 2021

might be able to change some rules, but no, the president DOES NOT appropriate money on his own.
then he needs 60 votes in the senate.

Response to AZSkiffyGeek (Reply #13)

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
34. Poor thing. They're all gaslighting you. And you have to pay on the money
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:28 PM
Dec 2021

you borrowed. And no one is buying your self-serving distortion of what has transpired.

It's tragic.

dixiechiken1

(2,113 posts)
41. This ☝️☝️☝️
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:49 PM
Dec 2021

I'm thinking President Biden's plate is more than a little full, despite all of the things he and the Dems have accomplished in less than ONE YEAR of his FOUR YEAR TERM...

But yeah, sure, please go on about how you have to start making payments again on money you borrowed, under the same terms under which you borrowed it when you signed on the dotted line.

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PortTack

(35,820 posts)
18. Get your facts straight before posting! President Biden forgave as much student debt that he could
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:07 PM
Dec 2021

With an EO! The rest would take a law!

usaf-vet

(7,811 posts)
19. Try bitching and Manchin and Sinema they are the ones that are throwing up roadblocks against.....
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:12 PM
Dec 2021

..... Bidens promised agenda. He has to fight with members of his own party to pass his agenda.

Don't forget in the next election you could vote for the republicans if you think they are a better choice.

George II

(67,782 posts)
24. Can you direct us to where/when/how he "promised" student loan forgiveness? I'll wait, thank you.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:19 PM
Dec 2021

George II

(67,782 posts)
30. Please watch the video again, especially the first 20 seconds or so. He proposed to the House and...
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:24 PM
Dec 2021

...Pelosi that they include it in a bill.

THAT is how it's done.

His initial promise there is $10,000 relief, and various other methods of relief THROUGH LEGISLATION, not "the stroke of a pen" as several members of Congress are claiming he can do.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
38. Ssh... The pony patrol has its marching orders
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:46 PM
Dec 2021

Democrats gotta ignore what's been done and attack for not doing what he can't by himself.

Historic NY

(40,037 posts)
32. You know who did my loan forgiviness
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:27 PM
Dec 2021
me, I even had to pay back money to the VA they sent in error from my father's survivor benefits.

I worked my way thru my Masters taking 3 classes a week.

George II

(67,782 posts)
35. Breaking News: "Biden Has Cancelled $11.5 Billion Of Student Loans....
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:30 PM
Dec 2021
Biden Has Cancelled $11.5 Billion Of Student Loans, But Here’s What This Means For Student Loan Forgiveness

Here’s what you need to know.

Student Loans

Since becoming president, Biden has cancelled more than $11.5 billion of student loan debt, which is the most of any president. This includes:

$5.8 billion of student loan cancellation for student loan borrowers with a total and permanent disability;

$1.5 billion of student loan cancellation for student loan borrowers who were misled by their college or university and got student loan forgiveness through borrower defense to repayment;

$4.5 billion of student loan cancellation for student loan borrowers seeking public service loan forgiveness, including $1.7 billion automatic student loan cancellation and at least $2.8 billion of additional student loan cancellation.

Latest student loan forgiveness: the details

To date, Biden has used existing student loan forgiveness programs to enact student loan forgiveness. This has included, for example, student loan forgiveness of federal student loans through borrower defense to repayment as well as total and permanent disability.

Biden’s latest student loan forgiveness, however, major changes to student loan cancellation for public servants. These major changes to student loan forgiveness include:

which student loan payments count toward student loan forgiveness;

which types of student loans should count for student loan forgiveness;

which employers qualify for student loan forgiveness;

when student loan payments start counting for student loan forgiveness


And lots more.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2021/10/12/biden-has-cancelled-115-billion-of-student-loans-but-heres-what-this-means-for-student-loan-forgiveness/?sh=67a593ea7fd7

I wish people would STOP falsely claiming that Biden has done nothing, has proposed nothing additional, or promised to forgive ALL student loan debt.

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,869 posts)
36. Biden pledged to forgive $10,000 in student loan debt. Here's what he's done so far
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:34 PM
Dec 2021

Here are some more facts on this issue https://www.npr.org/2021/12/07/1062070001/student-loan-forgiveness-debt-president-biden-campaign-promise

While it's not loan forgiveness, Biden extended the pandemic pause on federal student loan payments; that pause is now slated to lift in February. His other actions essentially keep promises the U.S. government had already made to borrowers — rather than make new ones. For example:

Total and permanent disability discharge: In August, Education Secretary Miguel Cardona announced that the department would erase the federal student debts of thousands of borrowers with permanent disabilities. A 2019 NPR investigation found that, even though eligible borrowers have been legally entitled to a full discharge of their loans, the process was so complicated that fewer than half were able to shed their debts. The latest data from the Education Department suggests that these changes will help at least 370,000 borrowers drop more than $6.5 billion in student debts.

Borrower defense and closed-school discharge: The Biden administration has dramatically expanded efforts to help students who have been defrauded by for-profit colleges and/or whose schools have been forced to close. Defrauded students who previously filed "borrower defense" claims but were given only partial relief under Trump administration rules will now see the rest of their federal student loans discharged.

Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF): The program meant to forgive borrowers' debts after 10 years of public service and steady loan payments has been notoriously stingy, with complex rules and serial mismanagement pushing out many eligible borrowers. In October, though, the department used its expanded pandemic authority to retroactively loosen those rules and give borrowers credit for disqualified loan payments. According to the department, the overhaul has already forgiven $2 billion in debts.


Through these efforts, the Education Department says it has discharged or is in the process of discharging roughly $12.7 billion in student debt, affecting more than 638,000 borrowers.


Hamlette

(15,556 posts)
40. From someone who has student loans: Biden has done more on forgiveness than Trump or Obama.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:48 PM
Dec 2021

My son and DIL both have student loans and are eligible for loan forgiveness. DIL had several loans (total $30,000) and was told by the US Dept of Education to consolidate her loans after she'd been paying on them for 3 years. She specifically asked if consolidation would start the clock over and was told "no, you will get credit for the 3 years you already paid". Once she did as instructed and consolidated her loans, they told her the 3 years she paid before consolidation did not count toward the 10 years she needs to pay to get forgiveness. She called and wrote and complained and while they admitted she had been given misinformation (to consolidate and it wouldn't start the clock over) DOE couldn't do anything but follow the rules and not allow the payments to count against the 10 years. She tried under Obama and Trump to fix it and could not.

Biden gets elected.

DOE contacts her out of the blue and say what happened to her was wrong and she was getting credit for the 3 years' of payments. She also got nearly 2 years of payment forgiveness during Covid and she will hit the 10 year mark before payments begin again in Feb 2022.

Both of them sing the praises of Biden, and said Obama hadn't done as much to help them as Biden had. And of course Trump didn't help.

Lovie777

(22,985 posts)
42. My gawd, there is so much misinformation out there . ....
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 03:29 PM
Dec 2021

by your truly Stein's cult coupled with the GQP.

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