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Rhiannon12866

(204,762 posts)
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 04:30 AM Jan 2022

Fake Elector Struggles To Explain Role In Scheme To Submit False Election Papers - Rachel Maddow



Rachel Maddow shares video shot by a KPNX photojournalist of Arizona Republic reporter Richard Ruelas asking Arizona State Representative Jake Hoffman how he came to represent himself as an elector on paperwork that falsely claimed Donald Trump had won Arizona in 2020. Aired on 01/12/2022.


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Fake Elector Struggles To Explain Role In Scheme To Submit False Election Papers - Rachel Maddow (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Jan 2022 OP
I know nothing. multigraincracker Jan 2022 #1
Perfect! Rhiannon12866 Jan 2022 #3
oh that was perfect NJCher Jan 2022 #6
They all must be perfectly prosecuted. Ignorance of the law should never be ANY goper's excuse. ancianita Jan 2022 #8
It's That Easy To Get Him To Show Up? smb Jan 2022 #10
K&R! SheltieLover Jan 2022 #2
I'm surprised he didn't just turn and run! Rhiannon12866 Jan 2022 #4
No kidding! SheltieLover Jan 2022 #7
Arrogance. Nothing but uncontrolled arrogance. OldBaldy1701E Jan 2022 #16
K&R Agree! UCmeNdc Jan 2022 #5
What is the penalty of their actions? Escurumbele Jan 2022 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #11
It probably seemed like a good idea at the time. malthaussen Jan 2022 #12
Such a simple question, and yet he can't answer Ohioboy Jan 2022 #13
This is what I want to start seeing and hearing peggysue2 Jan 2022 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #15
This asshole is running for Senate against Mark Kelly LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2022 #17
Good Grief! Twitter replies: Rhiannon12866 Jan 2022 #19
What actual journalism is Wild blueberry Jan 2022 #18

NJCher

(35,619 posts)
6. oh that was perfect
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 05:23 AM
Jan 2022

I watched this clip three times because I loved how the reporter stayed right on him. The funniest part was when the reporter, incredulous, asked him how he could not know how he learned of where to show up. This guy, who is a state GOP representative, could not/would not answer that question. He took the call. He showed up. But he would not answer that question.

These dumb @$#@#s. Can they not see down the road for a possible outcome of their actions? Does it not occur to them that trump is a shaky individual and the likelihood of a failure is highly possible?

And let's just assume for a moment that their "coup" was successful. Did they not consider that their adversaries would be looking twice at the documentation? Talk about underestimating your opponent.

I can see their explanation for this fraud is going to be they felt they had to submit "dual electors" because they thought the election fraudulent. Sorry dumbass, even if that were to be the case, you have to let the system play out before you get to be an elector.

I don't know whether to or

ancianita

(35,932 posts)
8. They all must be perfectly prosecuted. Ignorance of the law should never be ANY goper's excuse.
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 06:46 AM
Jan 2022

This here party is a party of Accessories After The Fact criminals,
or full of people like this guy, people who have no business being elected to government because they are dumbass children in grownups' bodies.

My highest hope is that their prosecutions keep all participants from ever owning arms (no militia life for them) or holding elected office (no puffed up doofuses in state legislatures).

smb

(3,471 posts)
10. It's That Easy To Get Him To Show Up?
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 07:12 AM
Jan 2022
He took the call. He showed up.

"Hey, dude, meet me and my buddies in front of the crack house next to the brothel on Skeeze Street. Bring $5000 in small unmarked bills...."

OldBaldy1701E

(5,088 posts)
16. Arrogance. Nothing but uncontrolled arrogance.
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 11:45 AM
Jan 2022

He thinks he is better than anyone. He thinks he can talk his way out of anything. He is sure he is smarter than everyone else. I like people like him. They make spotting the real lunacy in that party very easy. Too bad he is going to go to jail for sedition. Because that is what he tried to do. Any less of a charge on any of the five state's traitors is more proof that this so called 'justice system' is broken beyond repair.

Response to Escurumbele (Reply #9)

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
12. It probably seemed like a good idea at the time.
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 10:02 AM
Jan 2022

I'll make a general observation which does not necessarily apply to Mr Hoffman: lots of lower-intellect clowns caught in the middle of a con were taken there one small absurd step at a time -- the old "boiled lobster" analogy. Go far enough down that road, and you find yourself doing things which you would have thought ridiculous a few small steps ago.

However, the law does not give mulligans for stupidity. If you do the crime, you should do the time.

-- Mal

Ohioboy

(3,238 posts)
13. Such a simple question, and yet he can't answer
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 10:29 AM
Jan 2022

"How did you hear about it?" You know you got them when they can't even answer a simple question.

The thing that pisses me off is that douchebags such as this Jake Hoffman act so cocky while they are lying and deflecting. This one needs a subpoena.

peggysue2

(10,823 posts)
14. This is what I want to start seeing and hearing
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 10:56 AM
Jan 2022

The media going after these people, cornering them, making them sweat as these antidemocratic machinations are brought to light. They thought they were so smart, so justified and righteous scrambling onto the Big Lie.

Now, not so much. Just two-bit liars and con artists caught up in their own fraud.

Kudos to Richard Ruelas and his cameraman. This is what real journalism looks and sounds like.



Response to peggysue2 (Reply #14)

Wild blueberry

(6,616 posts)
18. What actual journalism is
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 01:30 PM
Jan 2022

Thank you Rachel Maddow for following this important story, and thank you to Richard Ruelas and KPNX for asking good questions.
Thank you for posting all these, Rhinannon!

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