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littlemissmartypants

(22,627 posts)
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 07:09 PM Jan 2022

12 Covid Autopsy Cases Reveal the Truth, "How Covid Patients Dying"

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Mike Hansen, M.D.
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12 Covid Autopsy Cases Reveal the Truth, "How Covid Patients Dying" (Original Post) littlemissmartypants Jan 2022 OP
Interesting - but I'm going to do my own research on Google and Tik Toc packman Jan 2022 #1
I can tell, from reading your DU journal, that you've already done so much. littlemissmartypants Jan 2022 #2
Tik Toc? Seriously? How about Lancet or other professional medical journals. Too "educated?" Evolve Dammit Jan 2022 #6
I take packman's post as satire. . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2022 #8
not the topic or time to be satirical. What's the point? It fails to be humorous. Evolve Dammit Jan 2022 #9
Gallows humor always has a place as does satire to mock the ridiculous. Lucky Luciano Jan 2022 #10
Going out on a limb here and guessing Rural_Progressive Jan 2022 #12
And who are you to determine when the time is right? babylonsister Jan 2022 #13
Really! packman Jan 2022 #17
I thought you were serious. Sorry. Battle fatigue and friends/ family dead. Evolve Dammit Jan 2022 #18
Can't believe how anyone could take it otherwise packman Jan 2022 #16
Looks like cement lung... babylonsister Jan 2022 #3
Yes empedocles Jan 2022 #4
That's Exactly What This Is... GB_RN Jan 2022 #5
"IF". babylonsister Jan 2022 #14
Yup... GB_RN Jan 2022 #15
Cement lung candidate? Rocknation Jan 2022 #20
From What I Can Tell... GB_RN Jan 2022 #21
Apologies for not including the link Rocknation Jan 2022 #22
A recently revealed electron microscope image showed millions of engorged cells Ford_Prefect Jan 2022 #7
I didn't allow the hysteria to distract me from getting my other vaccines on schedule Rocknation Jan 2022 #11
Same here. I got both my flu and pneumonia shots as well as the vaccine and booster. Rhiannon12866 Jan 2022 #19
 

packman

(16,296 posts)
1. Interesting - but I'm going to do my own research on Google and Tik Toc
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 07:46 PM
Jan 2022

Those educated guys, they have a very narrow point of focus.

Rural_Progressive

(1,105 posts)
12. Going out on a limb here and guessing
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 10:02 PM
Jan 2022

you've never been in a profession or had a personal experience where you have dealt with mass trauma, destruction, or casualties. If you had you'd know that is one of the ways those of us who have dealt with such things maintain our sanity.

Sorry if it upset you, it's a perfectly natural and necessary method for those involved in such things to keep going otherwise you can get just get overwhelmed. It's also completely appropriate for that person to post those feelings on a site like this one.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
16. Can't believe how anyone could take it otherwise
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 01:23 AM
Jan 2022

Really wonder about some of the replies and the posters.

babylonsister

(171,042 posts)
3. Looks like cement lung...
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 08:03 PM
Jan 2022
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216200546

We should be calling COVID "Cement Lung"

No one says "coal workers' pneumoconiosis" - it's Black Lung. When you hear “Black Lung,” you immediately see a diseased dirty lung saturated with coal dust in your mind.

And COVID should be "Cement Lung."

"Cement Lung" communicates a visceral graphic message of what this disease does to your lungs. Makes them inelastic. Freezes them. Fills them full of crap. You are then beyond the reach of medical aid. That can't be fixed.

You want to risk getting Cement Lung? Do you want your elderly parents to get it? Do you want your children in the hospital with Cement Lung? Let those visual images float around inside your brain awhile and see if you still like the idea of being unvaccinated or unmasked.

GB_RN

(2,346 posts)
5. That's Exactly What This Is...
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 09:14 PM
Jan 2022

COVID fibrosis turns the lungs into cement. IF you survive the pneumonia, ventilator, etc, the scarring on the lungs basically turns your lungs into pieces of cement that are useless for moving oxygen from the air into your blood. Lung transplants are the only thing that will do, in the long run, for many of these patients. There were stories for COVID patients who required lung transplants in order to survive long-term, back during the first wave.

It was one thing, when this was in the first and second wave and we didn't have the vaccines for people to have an excuse. Those folks who needed lung transplants then as a result of COVID were merely victims. But at this point, if you have refused the vaccine - without a valid medical reason - you have no excuse and that should automatically disqualify you from the transplant list, IMO: It's like being on the liver transplant list while still drinking alcohol. I'm out of empathy and sympathy for the deniers and antivaxxers.

babylonsister

(171,042 posts)
14. "IF".
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 10:35 PM
Jan 2022

I've read so many accounts of what goes on in a covid ward; there was a great example on DU recently where the nurse took us step-by-step through what happens once you're admitted and through death.

The facts are out there; it's so ignorant there are so many people out there who refuse a vax because...why?
Someone told them it's a bad idea?


GB_RN

(2,346 posts)
15. Yup...
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 10:54 PM
Jan 2022

They believe what they want to believe, because it's easier than facing the fact that they've been lied to. There's a t-shirt I have that says "No, you're right. Let's do it the dumbest way possible because it's easier for you."
That about sums up our approach to this pandemic. (The link is just so you can see it. I'm not selling anything)

These are numbers I've posted in a few other threads today, but I figure that it's just as worthwhile to put them here, too:

Duke University Hospital has 957 beds. As of this morning, Duke had 305 COVID patients. Of those 305, 208 are unvaxxed. Out of those 305, 59 are in the ICU. Of those 59, 47 are unvaxxed. Of those 59, 35 are on a ventilator. Of those 35, 30 are unvaxxed. 3 ICU patients are on ECMO (Extracorporeal Membranous Oxygenation - basically, an artificial lung. COVID patients who are on ECMO are almost guaranteed dead; you're just prolonging the inevitable*). Those 3 are unvaxxed. 305/957 = 32% of the hospital's bed capacity is being utilized by COVID patients. 208/305 = 68% of those patients are unvaxxed. 80% of ICU patients are unvaxxed. 86% of the ventilator patients are unvaxxed.

That's just at Duke. In terms of major hospitals, we also have UNC and Wake Med right here in the Triangle (plus several smaller hospitals). I don't know what the numbers are at those, or at the other major/minor hospitals in the state. But the total COVID hospitalizations in the state are rapidly increasing (more than quadrupled since 12/1/21), and if the pattern holds, at least 2/3s of them are unvaxxed. The unvaxxed, ventilated patients in the ICUs? The chances for them probably aren't great.

Rocknation

(44,573 posts)
20. Cement lung candidate?
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 03:18 PM
Jan 2022

Last edited Wed Jan 19, 2022, 04:36 PM - Edit history (2)

“For me personally, it hit me differently,”...ESPN commentator Stephen A. Smith explained...“I had pneumonia in both lungs. My liver was bad, and it ravaged me to the point where even now I have to monitor my volume and get to the gym every day... I'm still not 100% with my lungs, but I'm Covid negative...

"[Doctors] told me, had I not been vaccinated, I wouldn’t be here. That’s how bad I was..."
link

Never mind being vaccinated -- Smith is age 54. If he were only ten years older, this story may have had much different ending.


Rocknation

GB_RN

(2,346 posts)
21. From What I Can Tell...
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 03:36 PM
Jan 2022

It sounds like it messed up his heart and/or his kidneys*, if he's having to "monitor [his] volume". Fluid volume overload is a real threat when the kidneys don't work or the heart can't pump efficiently or both. If the left side of the heart doesn't pump well, fluid backs in the lungs, and puts pressure on the right side of the heart as it tries to pump against that fluid build up, eventually causing the right side to fail. If the right side doesn't pump well, fluid backs up below it (in the liver, abdomen, knees, feet, etc). It puts pressure on the kidneys and the left side of the heart, eventually causing it to fail (still simple version).

If the kidneys don't - or can't - remove fluid efficiently, it backs up in the whole circulatory system...and causes a massive cascade effect, too.

*COVID has been documented from the start to be capable of causing heart and kidney damage. That's in addition to the documented clotting disorders (increased incidents of strokes in COVID patients), neurological damage and other long-term effects. COVID is a beast of a disease, and just because you get over the acute illness phase doesn't mean COVID is done with you.

Rocknation

(44,573 posts)
22. Apologies for not including the link
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 04:37 PM
Jan 2022

Last edited Sun Feb 6, 2022, 01:47 AM - Edit history (4)

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/18/media/stephen-a-smith-covid-espn/index.html

FYI, Smith is the John Cleese of sportscasters -- his "gimmick" is his tendency to become increasingly (and unnecessarily) demonstrative and loud when discussing even non-controversial issues.



If he now has to "monitor" his volume, it suggests that he is not yet breathing normally.

Rocknation

Rocknation

(44,573 posts)
11. I didn't allow the hysteria to distract me from getting my other vaccines on schedule
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 09:44 PM
Jan 2022

including one for pneumonia shortly after Covid hit -- which is beginning to look more and more like my ace in the hole...


Rocknation

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