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Irish_Dem
(45,619 posts)Trump and the GOP seem to be doing a 21st century version of this strategy.
Rhiannon12866
(202,970 posts)And we remember hearing early on that he kept a copy of Mein Kampf by his bedside. But that may have been just a rumor, we've since learned that the guy doesn't read.
Kablooie
(18,571 posts)And who said he had to read it? Just having it by his side probably gave him inspiration.
Rhiannon12866
(202,970 posts)Though I can't help thinking that he'd rather watch videos of himself than of anybody else.
Rhiannon12866
(202,970 posts)"If we could see ourselves as others see us, I think we'd rather see than be us..."
Zambero
(8,954 posts)at the scene of peaceful demonstrators being brutalized. And he'd never cracked that book either.
Irish_Dem
(45,619 posts)He just wanted the book near him.
Irish_Dem
(45,619 posts)We have enough leaders also doing the Hitler playbook, so it is not just the orange F- wad.
calimary
(80,693 posts)Irish_Dem
(45,619 posts)He blamed the German people for losing the war. He could have surrendered and stopped the bombing of Berlin.
His generals begged him to surrender to stop the bombing and cut better terms for the country and people.
Hitler flat out refused to do so.
And yes part of his thought process was that he did not want anything left for the Allies. And he blamed everyone else but himself for the loss of the war.
Eisenhower and Churchill discussed all of this. Some of the British generals did not want a ground assault on Europe. They insisted the war could be won with just arial bombing. But it would mean the complete destruction of European cities.
Eisenhower said NO. He was not willing to destroy Europe with bombs. He knew the ground assault meant American lives but he could not see killing so many European civilians with constant bombing.
The lesson here is that Trump is like Hitler and will burn down the US, especially when he starts losing.
calimary
(80,693 posts)All for ME, or else!
trump. If I dont get it ALL, then neither does anybody else. It only works when I win and I stand supreme.
FUCK him.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Not something we want to think about, but imagine the wealth up for grabs if they succeed, land, minerals, oil, gas, timber, ... half the West, most of Alaska .... It happened in the USSR and now Russia is rum by mobsters like #FailedCoupGuy.
Rhiannon12866
(202,970 posts)They actually have quite a bit in common.
Irish_Dem
(45,619 posts)It is what Putin has achieved in Russia.
Putin is said to be the richest man in the world, he got all the Russian wealth. It is ruled by a group of mobsters. It is no longer a country in the traditional sense.
Yes if you think about the US wealth it is astounding.
And that is what the GOP wants.
King_Klonopin
(1,305 posts)Their goal is to establish totalitarian, one-party rule and to destroy all opposition.
Complete power for the sake of wielding it.
At this stage, it appears that Trump and most republicans are making their last big bet --
they ware willing to unleash every underhanded tactic, break every norm, and ignore
every law that may stand in their way. "Fuck the law. Fuck morality. Fuck the truth.
And fuck anyone who disagrees with us."
Trump is the prototype of "the man of lawlessness" referred to by St. Paul in the Bible,
and he is also the Nero who would burn everything down around himself rather than admit
wrongdoing. In his mind, he is not really a criminal if he is neither caught nor held to account.
Trump is betting that WE don't have the guts to call his bluff, and he cannot fold his hand
because that would leave him with nothing.
The risk they are taking in this bet is that, if we do call their bluff or if his supporters finally
do see that he is just a common cheat who is leading the nation to its death, the whole lot will go
down in ignominious flames and leave a wound which will take generations to heal. Yet, even if
they do fail, they don't give a shit about the consequences. Stealing the country all for themselves
is within their reach.
Trump has brought the country to this precipice. See what happens when you tolerate evil?
Rhiannon12866
(202,970 posts)Activities. Not to mention that Letitia James is building a case against TFG, too.
DENVERPOPS
(8,677 posts)Trump wouldn't have lasted a month in office if the Republican Senators in particular hadn't enabled him, encouraged him, and backed him completely........Along with a Ton of other Uber Rich Republicans. And we must not forget the massive wealth funneled through the NRA by Putin. And Putin's work in the shadows helping get Trump "installed".........
Even if we get Trump, then the work has just started. I worry the most about the Republicans in the Senate and the House gaining even more power...............
Irish_Dem
(45,619 posts)Hitler had trusted and loyal generals all around him to carry out his plans.
In the case of Trump, others are pulling his strings.
Roc2020
(1,602 posts)czarjak
(11,191 posts)Stuart G
(38,359 posts).....Please believe that there are very strong people in the Republican Party who will fight Trump
to the end. I believe that these people are getting together as we speak to oppose Trump. And there is lots of
money with those that oppose Donald Trump. Why?...Some rich and very smart republicans do not want Donald
Trump as the head of the Republican Party. They know three very important ideas that we know:
.......Donald Trump is a looser and a liar and a killer.
It is that simple and there will be war within the Republican Party and Trump will lose.
Because the truth and honesty is not on Trump's side. And Trump doesn't have a clue, but the rich
and smart republicans do not want Trump to be their leader, and they will fight like hell to get rid of the looser, liar, and killer. Time is very short, and the war is coming within the Puke Party....popcorn anyone..?
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