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Rhiannon12866

(202,970 posts)
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 12:35 AM Feb 2022

Claire McCaskill: Trump Is Clearly Ready To Burn The Whole Thing Down - The ReidOut - MSNBC



The Jan. 6 select committee investigating the Capitol insurrection heard from Stewart Rhodes, the head of the far-right group the Oath Keepers, on Wednesday. Joy and her panel discuss whether the Department of Justice is doing enough to bring indictments for the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection and attempts to overturn the election. Aired on 02/02/2022.


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Claire McCaskill: Trump Is Clearly Ready To Burn The Whole Thing Down - The ReidOut - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Feb 2022 OP
Hitler burned it all down in his quest for total power and control. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #1
Agreed, that seems to be his strategy. The Republicans no longer have a platform, it's all TFG Rhiannon12866 Feb 2022 #2
It was a copy of Hitlers speeches. Kablooie Feb 2022 #4
And there are videos on the internets. Rhiannon12866 Feb 2022 #5
Though, trying to imagine what he must see, this came to mind Rhiannon12866 Feb 2022 #7
And he also waved an unread bible for the cameras Zambero Feb 2022 #11
Right, he idolizes fascist autocrats. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #18
Well he is doing the Hitler play book, so the rumor is probably true. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #13
It's one version of "if I can't have her/him/it, NOBODY can." calimary Feb 2022 #16
In the end Hitler was angry at the German people and let them literally burn. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #19
Yep. Sounds like that selfish schmuck. calimary Feb 2022 #22
If one assumes the goal is to break up the USA, everything they do makes sense. Putin? L. Coyote Feb 2022 #3
That's pretty believable, he may have traded one mentor for another, Hitler for Putin. Rhiannon12866 Feb 2022 #6
The GOP wants total permanent power and all US assets. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #14
I think Trump and his minions have hit the point of making the all-in, go-for-broke wager. King_Klonopin Feb 2022 #8
They're in a race against time before the January 6th Committee exposes the depth of their criminal Rhiannon12866 Feb 2022 #10
It wasn't just Trump DENVERPOPS Feb 2022 #15
This is a cabal at work. No one person could pull this off. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #20
Burn it down then. Roc2020 Feb 2022 #9
Bannon's plan. czarjak Feb 2022 #12
I will disagree with the idea that Trump will burn it all down. It will become war within the Stuart G Feb 2022 #17
Shhhh. Merrick is Sleeping. You might wake him up. magicguido Feb 2022 #21

Irish_Dem

(45,619 posts)
1. Hitler burned it all down in his quest for total power and control.
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 12:51 AM
Feb 2022

Trump and the GOP seem to be doing a 21st century version of this strategy.

Rhiannon12866

(202,970 posts)
2. Agreed, that seems to be his strategy. The Republicans no longer have a platform, it's all TFG
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 12:58 AM
Feb 2022

And we remember hearing early on that he kept a copy of Mein Kampf by his bedside. But that may have been just a rumor, we've since learned that the guy doesn't read.

Kablooie

(18,571 posts)
4. It was a copy of Hitlers speeches.
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 01:04 AM
Feb 2022

And who said he had to read it? Just having it by his side probably gave him inspiration.

Rhiannon12866

(202,970 posts)
5. And there are videos on the internets.
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 01:08 AM
Feb 2022

Though I can't help thinking that he'd rather watch videos of himself than of anybody else.

Rhiannon12866

(202,970 posts)
7. Though, trying to imagine what he must see, this came to mind
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 03:37 AM
Feb 2022

"If we could see ourselves as others see us, I think we'd rather see than be us..."

Zambero

(8,954 posts)
11. And he also waved an unread bible for the cameras
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 12:20 PM
Feb 2022

at the scene of peaceful demonstrators being brutalized. And he'd never cracked that book either.

Irish_Dem

(45,619 posts)
13. Well he is doing the Hitler play book, so the rumor is probably true.
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 01:11 PM
Feb 2022

We have enough leaders also doing the Hitler playbook, so it is not just the orange F- wad.

Irish_Dem

(45,619 posts)
19. In the end Hitler was angry at the German people and let them literally burn.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 12:10 PM
Feb 2022

He blamed the German people for losing the war. He could have surrendered and stopped the bombing of Berlin.

His generals begged him to surrender to stop the bombing and cut better terms for the country and people.

Hitler flat out refused to do so.

And yes part of his thought process was that he did not want anything left for the Allies. And he blamed everyone else but himself for the loss of the war.

Eisenhower and Churchill discussed all of this. Some of the British generals did not want a ground assault on Europe. They insisted the war could be won with just arial bombing. But it would mean the complete destruction of European cities.

Eisenhower said NO. He was not willing to destroy Europe with bombs. He knew the ground assault meant American lives but he could not see killing so many European civilians with constant bombing.

The lesson here is that Trump is like Hitler and will burn down the US, especially when he starts losing.

calimary

(80,693 posts)
22. Yep. Sounds like that selfish schmuck.
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 01:51 PM
Feb 2022

“All for ME, or else!”

trump. If I don’t get it ALL, then neither does anybody else. It only works when I win and I stand supreme.

FUCK him.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
3. If one assumes the goal is to break up the USA, everything they do makes sense. Putin?
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 01:04 AM
Feb 2022

Not something we want to think about, but imagine the wealth up for grabs if they succeed, land, minerals, oil, gas, timber, ... half the West, most of Alaska .... It happened in the USSR and now Russia is rum by mobsters like #FailedCoupGuy.

Rhiannon12866

(202,970 posts)
6. That's pretty believable, he may have traded one mentor for another, Hitler for Putin.
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 01:10 AM
Feb 2022

They actually have quite a bit in common.

Irish_Dem

(45,619 posts)
14. The GOP wants total permanent power and all US assets.
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 01:14 PM
Feb 2022

It is what Putin has achieved in Russia.

Putin is said to be the richest man in the world, he got all the Russian wealth. It is ruled by a group of mobsters. It is no longer a country in the traditional sense.

Yes if you think about the US wealth it is astounding.
And that is what the GOP wants.

King_Klonopin

(1,305 posts)
8. I think Trump and his minions have hit the point of making the all-in, go-for-broke wager.
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 03:47 AM
Feb 2022

Their goal is to establish totalitarian, one-party rule and to destroy all opposition.
Complete power for the sake of wielding it.

At this stage, it appears that Trump and most republicans are making their last big bet --
they ware willing to unleash every underhanded tactic, break every norm, and ignore
every law that may stand in their way. "Fuck the law. Fuck morality. Fuck the truth.
And fuck anyone who disagrees with us."

Trump is the prototype of "the man of lawlessness" referred to by St. Paul in the Bible,
and he is also the Nero who would burn everything down around himself rather than admit
wrongdoing. In his mind, he is not really a criminal if he is neither caught nor held to account.

Trump is betting that WE don't have the guts to call his bluff, and he cannot fold his hand
because that would leave him with nothing.

The risk they are taking in this bet is that, if we do call their bluff or if his supporters finally
do see that he is just a common cheat who is leading the nation to its death, the whole lot will go
down in ignominious flames and leave a wound which will take generations to heal. Yet, even if
they do fail, they don't give a shit about the consequences. Stealing the country all for themselves
is within their reach.

Trump has brought the country to this precipice. See what happens when you tolerate evil?

Rhiannon12866

(202,970 posts)
10. They're in a race against time before the January 6th Committee exposes the depth of their criminal
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 10:58 AM
Feb 2022

Activities. Not to mention that Letitia James is building a case against TFG, too.

DENVERPOPS

(8,677 posts)
15. It wasn't just Trump
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 03:10 PM
Feb 2022

Trump wouldn't have lasted a month in office if the Republican Senators in particular hadn't enabled him, encouraged him, and backed him completely........Along with a Ton of other Uber Rich Republicans. And we must not forget the massive wealth funneled through the NRA by Putin. And Putin's work in the shadows helping get Trump "installed".........

Even if we get Trump, then the work has just started. I worry the most about the Republicans in the Senate and the House gaining even more power...............

Irish_Dem

(45,619 posts)
20. This is a cabal at work. No one person could pull this off.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 12:12 PM
Feb 2022

Hitler had trusted and loyal generals all around him to carry out his plans.

In the case of Trump, others are pulling his strings.

Stuart G

(38,359 posts)
17. I will disagree with the idea that Trump will burn it all down. It will become war within the
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 08:49 PM
Feb 2022
Republican Party.. .................................................

.....Please believe that there are very strong people in the Republican Party who will fight Trump
to the end. I believe that these people are getting together as we speak to oppose Trump. And there is lots of
money with those that oppose Donald Trump. Why?...Some rich and very smart republicans do not want Donald
Trump as the head of the Republican Party. They know three very important ideas that we know:
.......Donald Trump is a looser and a liar and a killer.

It is that simple and there will be war within the Republican Party and Trump will lose.

Because the truth and honesty is not on Trump's side. And Trump doesn't have a clue, but the rich
and smart republicans do not want Trump to be their leader, and they will fight like hell to get rid of the looser, liar, and killer. Time is very short, and the war is coming within the Puke Party....popcorn anyone..?



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