Auditor ARRESTED On His First Audit EVER! First Amendment Audit Fail (Team Skeptic)

[NurseJackie]

I admire these cops for how they handle jackasses like this guy.

Today's youtube idiots video comes from a first amendment auditor who tries to do his first audit at a post office, and ends up getting himself arrested. First Amendment Audit Fail!

[OldBaldy1701E]

1. Oh how I wish he had kept running his mouth.

Insulting the police to their faces tends to allow them to show just how 'fucking tough' they are. The regret is that they did not take it upon themselves to educate him.

[The Jungle 1]

2. The narrator is clueless dope.

The sign says Authorized Vehicles only. The auditor is not a vehicle and there are not any no trespassing signs. He is allowed in there. WE OWN THAT PROPERTY!
The post office is not a private business and you cannot be trespassed unless you break a law. The post office is public property. It is owned and operated by the citizens of the USA.
People like the fascist narrator are how we lose our rights.
The auditor will win in court and he will win a nice lawsuit. The fascist narrator wins nothing.
I find it amazing how many fascist police there are who do not understand American law.

[NurseJackie]

3. 😂🤣

The sign says Authorized Vehicles only. The auditor is not a vehicle and there are not any no trespassing signs. He is allowed in there.

Yes, he's not a vehicle... he's also not an authorized vehicle. He was clearly trespassing.

WE OWN THAT PROPERTY!

Try that at the gates of a military base that "we the people" own.

People like the fascist narrator are how we lose our rights.

Nonsense. I agree fully with the narrator.

The auditor will win in court and he will win a nice lawsuit.

No he won't.

[The Jungle 1]

5. Well we disagree

I will tell you this. Go study the hundreds of You Tube videos of people doing the exact same thing at Post Offices all over the country. They all win in court. The Post Office is public property. An "Authorized Vehicle Only" sign is not a "NO TRESPASSING" sign. That is well established by the thousands of auditors who challenge the Post Office and police on these laws. Private property and public property are two different things. Public property is ours and we have the right to enter it.

Most police will not even engage 1st Amendment auditors anymore because this form of audit is well known. This auditor is going to win in court. In fact it will not go to court it will be settled out of court. The cops screw up big time.

Military bases all have No Trespassing Signs. These signs are backed by a statute.
However even when the auditors stand outside a base on the side walk and video the police sometimes think they can stop them. They can't. Anything that can be seen from the public can be filmed. Drones raise a whole other can of worms.

Just for the record losing our rights is not funny. It is real and is how we turn into a fascist nation. These auditors are forcing a real change in how police handle public property. The police know them and respect them. When the police don't show them respect they lose in court. Some of these guys are making a good living doing audits. Good for them.

These audits are preserving our 1st Amendment rights. It is a good and peaceful form of defiance against oppressive government over reach.
Bane Act:
Civil Code Section 52.1, the Tom Bane Civil Rights Act, authorizes suit against anyone who by threats, intimidation, or coercion interferes with the exercise or enjoyment of rights secured by the state or federal Constitutions or laws without regard to whether the victim is a member of a protected class.

If you so much as block a camera that is filming it is a 20,000 (?) dollar violation of the Bane Act.
This is an easy win for the auditor the 1st Amendment is one of our RIGHTS. He will make thousands of dollars and the police and the post office will get and education. Our rights will be preserved.

[Ptah]

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[NurseJackie]

8. No... you're just wrong.

That is well established by the thousands of auditors who challenge the Post Office and police on these laws. Private property and public property are two different things. Public property is ours and we have the right to enter it.

No we don't.

The employees/manager and "supervisor" is well within their rights to tell someone to leave... to have them "tresspassed" from the property... and the police are doing the right thing when the frauditor refuses to comply.

These auditor clowns are just as bad as the flat-earthers and those RIDICULOUS "Sovereign Citizens"

These audits are preserving our 1st Amendment rights.

LOL! They're doing no such thing.

It is a good and peaceful form of defiance against oppressive government over reach.

Being disruptive and blocking the entrance to the post office (or other businesses) is not "peaceful defiance". GMAFB.

Well we disagree

No... you're just wrong. Plain, flat-out, wrong. These frauditors live in a fantasy world.

[The Jungle 1]

14. Wow you must be a cop or work at the Post Office.

Police cannot trespass someone from PUBLIC property. Unless they are breaking a law. That is just fact. The police are the "Sovereign Citizens".

We have freedom of press and that is what the auditors are doing. They are operating as press. The record the police to report how the do of do not respect our RIGHTS.

The auditors have created a lot of change in how police handle freedom loving Americans in PUBLIC. Again you can watch this progression on You Tube. There are hundreds of these videos and none of them go the way this one did, anymore. A few years ago they all went like this one.

Thing is the auditors are winning the fantasy world. So that means it is no longer fantasy.

Please go watch some You Tube video on this subject. It is very educational.

[NurseJackie]

16. " Please go watch some You Tube video on this subject." 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Please go watch some You Tube video on this subject. It is very educational.

The record the police to report how the do of do not respect our RIGHTS.

Frauditors do not have the right to disobey lawful directives. They do not have the right to refuse to identify themselves after creating a disturbance or behaving in an aggressive or suspicious way.

Like that guy who carries around his "first amendment tripod" in a fucking RIFLE CASE while prowling around police/fire stations. Yeah.. he's a legit reporter, eh?

[The Jungle 1]

19. Here is a shocker for ya.

Police have NO authority over any American citizen until the American citizen breaks a law.
There are no lawful orders unless I break a law. I am not their puppy dog. They cannot order me around. We are not fascist.

Is suspicious a felony or a misdemeanors?

I do not have to ID. This is not fascist 1920's Germany. Papers please? Next they will be walking around with jackboots on.

What you have demonstrated with these posts is the disconnect between police and the public. Police are not our superiors. They are equal to the rest of America and they must also follow the law. It is absolutely nuts to watch people defend the current state of policing in America. A gang of police in Philly yanked a young mother out of a car and beat the shit out of her and kidnapped her child. They did not charge her with anything. Ahmaud Arbery’s killers were positive they would get away with it. They are still in shock. Police and public employees need to learn their place. You have no special rights.

So what is it that the laughing yellow guys do for your argument or is is just that you like mocking people. None of your posts contain any humor. Seems sadistic to me.

[NurseJackie]

20. A lot of people believe that.

Police have NO authority over any American citizen until the American citizen breaks a law.

A lot of people believe that. And a lot of those same people end up with a nice pair of silver bracelets... or getting to know Mr. Sparky when they behave aggressively and refuse to comply with lawful orders.

A gang of police in Philly yanked a young mother out of a car and beat the shit out of her and kidnapped her child.

No they didn't.

They did not charge her with anything. Ahmaud Arbery’s killers were positive they would get away with it. They are still in shock.

They are not the police.

So what is it that the laughing yellow guys do for your argument or is is just that you like mocking people.

This isn't about me.

[The Jungle 1]

22. Your mocking people is about you

A gang of police did beat the shit out of a young black mother in Philly and took her child. That is history. She was not charged with anything.

Ahmaud Arbery’s killers were positive they would get away with it. They are still in shock. They were positive the police would do nothing. The police did do nothing for many months. The police tried to make it into another quiet lynching.

When the police lock up people without cause we sue. What we need is for more states to end qualified immunity. They we can sue the filthy cops and get rid of the bad ones.

[NurseJackie]

24. I support the police every time they do this.

When the police lock up people without cause we sue. What we need is for more states to end qualified immunity. They we can sue the filthy cops and get rid of the bad ones.

In every instance where these frauditors and "sovereign citizens" have been arrested, it was certainly justified and WITH cause. --- I support the police every time they do this.

Ahmaud Arbery’s killers were positive they would get away with it. They are still in shock.

I'm sure they did. But that's a separate topic completely. If you want to start a separate thread about that, feel free. But when anyone continually brings up "off-topic" tangents and tries to change the subject... that indicates an awareness that they're arguing from a position of weakness.

[The Jungle 1]

25. Like I thought!

GRESHAM P.D, Oregon thanks for the information it completely supports everything I posted.

****The D.A. has declined prosecution!*****
The cops completely screwed the pooch again.
You may like what they did but they were wrong and un-American! They acted like a bunch of fascist thugs and the town will be sued now. Me I support the rule of LAW. I do not support fascist thugs making shit up as they go along. These fascist police will be stopped. America will not stand for it.

GRESHAM P.D. 503-618-2318
LIEUTENANT Smith 503-618-3176
City hall 503-661-3000
City Attorney 503-618-2507
Don't call.

[NurseJackie]

26. Anyone can sue anyone. It doesn't mean that their claims are legitimate or valid or legal.

Don't call.

Oh please. Posting this information was done to encourage others to call and harass the police department.

They acted like a bunch of fascist thugs and the town will be sued now.

Anyone can sue anyone. It doesn't mean that their claims are legitimate or valid or legal.

I do not support fascist thugs making shit up as they go along.

No they weren't. They did the right thing. When someone is trespassing and making a nuisance of themselves by being disruptive or harassing people... and when they don't leave when told to do so, they will find themselves being arrested.

It makes me happy every time one of these frauditors is arrested, or when they meet Mr. Sparky. The results are shocking! ⚡⚡

[The Jungle 1]

29. You were wrong. Just admit it you will feel better.

Lawsuits require a much lower burden of proof. This will not go to court. The town and insurance company will settle because they don't have a chance in hell of winning. End qualified immunity! These cops knew they were out of line. But they don't care because it cost them nothing.

"No they weren't. They did the right thing."
So why won't the DA move forward on these most serious charges. Because the fascist cops were wrong but at least they got an education. Bet you dollars to donuts they don't do this again.

"It makes me happy every time one of these frauditors is arrested, or when they meet Mr. Sparky. The results are shocking! ⚡⚡"
You are saying you support the torture of innocent Americans. Strong work there.
We beat the fascist in the Civil war, WWII and on 1/6. We will also beat the fascist police. They will not win. The thing about freedom is that all Americans get it. Even the ones you disagree with! Real Americans don't torture other Americans!

[GoneOffShore]

33. Frauditors are some of the stupidest people on the planet.

Right along with Flat Earthers, the Birds Aren't Real crowd, Sovereign Citizens, and 911-Troofers.

[Midnight Writer]

4. Post Office is a secure area. It is full of valuable mail and customer information.

They don't let unauthorized people wander in and walk around the place.

You can request a supervised tour if you like.

This is standard for government facilities, including the White House, the Pentagon, military bases, IRS data centers, and many others.

The management of the Post Office has the right to ask trespassers to leave.

[The Jungle 1]

7. That is not true.

In any of the public areas of a post office the public is allowed. *Unless they break a law you cannot be asked to leave.* Lobbies and counter areas, parking and porches. No you are not allowed into the back rooms behind closed doors. These are areas that privacy has been established. If the government facility has a fenced in area with a CLOSED gate then the public is now allowed in.
Again there are hundreds of You Tube Videos demonstrating this 1st Amendment activity. They are fighting for your rights.

[NurseJackie]

9. That's simply not true.

*Unless they break a law you cannot be asked to leave.*

That's simply not true.

They are fighting for your rights.

No, they're breaking the law in order to get clicks on their monetized channels. (Or to beg for paypal and patreon donations to make bail money.)

[The Jungle 1]

10. Check You Tube please.

There are hundreds of videos of police walking away from auditors in post offices. They don't arrest the auditor because they will not get a prosecution. It is called the walk of shame.
The police can ask you to leave, they cannot force you to leave. It is PUBLIC property. We OWN it. Again private business is a whole different bird.
The biggest argument is usually when the police ask for ID and the auditor refuses. If the auditor has not broken a law they don't have to provide ID. Police hate that.

I do not want a country where my 1st Amendment rights mean nothing. If you don't like these laws then work to change them. But right now we have the freedom to go to the Post Office and film and you cannot be forced out. We also have the freedom not to ID.

"No, they're breaking the law in order to get clicks on their monetized channels. (Or to beg for paypal and patreon donations to make bail money.)"
The police never arrest anyone for doing this anymore. I was very surprised to see this posted. The police have been educated and know they have no law to back them.

Public property rights has been an interesting recent cultural evolution and it happened fast. This all changed over just a few years. Thanks to cell phones.

[NurseJackie]

11. 🤣😂🤣😂 Because YouTube is the FIRST place to go for accurate information!

Check You Tube please.

Because YouTube is the FIRST place to go for accurate information!

The police can ask you to leave, they cannot force you to leave. It is PUBLIC property. We OWN it.

The frauditors in these videos who believe such nonsense are delusional. When a postal employee asks them to leave and they refuse, they are trespassing. Most are mentally ill and need help.

We also have the freedom not to ID.

No you don't.

The police never arrest anyone for doing this anymore.

Yes they do. When the frauditor refuses to leave, they can be trespassed. If they return, or continue to refuse to leave (or refuse to identify themselves) then they can be arrested. It happens all the time.

These jackasses are a nuisance and Youtube should demonitize channels that glamorize and celebrate breaking the law.

[The Jungle 1]

17. You must run the numbers

If there are five hundred You Tube videos and they all produce the same result. Yea well maybe there is some fact there.
A lot of the time the results of an arrest are provided by the video producer. The auditors always win when they push the case. Sometimes they just ask for an apology.

Wonder why there is no identification of the community or police department in this video. Are they to ashamed. We could look up the results if that big mouth announcer in the video wasn't a coward. I am betting all charges were dropped.

Public property is MY property.

I do NOT have to ID unless I am driving and have committed an infraction or the police have reasonable articulate suspicion of a crime. RAS. You are completely wrong this is not fascist 1940 Germany. They cannot just walk up and say papers please. We live in America and have some freedom left.

Please reference one case or video of a person on public property who was not breaking any law who was arrested and the charges stuck.
Please provide the name of the police department in this video.

[NurseJackie]

18. "Public property is MY property." 🙄

Public property is MY property.

No it's not.

They cannot just walk up and say papers please.

Nobody said that. But I can tell you that these jackasses who cause a disturbance or legitimate concern with their rifle cases... they are obligated to identify themselves. If they're trespassing, they must identify themselves.

If they refuse to leave or refuse any other lawful command... arrest their asses. Especially the repeat-offenders.

Please provide the name of the police department in this video.

I'm confident that anyone who relies so heavily on legal advice and guidance from Youtube will be able to find it very easily.

Also, anyone who actually WATCHED the video (or who was genuinely "curious&quot would know that the frauditor identified where he was at the 00:24 second-mark in the video. Asking questions while pretending like the info is being "hidden" is ridiculous.

[The Jungle 1]

21. Wow you are way out there

So whose property is public property. I pay for it. I maintain it. I heat and cool it. Whose is it then? You think the police own it? The government owns it. WE OWN IT.

You have to arrest someone for breaking a LAW you can't just arrest people. I only have to ID if I break a law. You are very confused about police power. What police did to that black military officer at the gas station in NC was completely wrong and they lost their jobs. Police have NO authority over me until I break a law. They cannot order me around! I am not their puppy. We are not a fascist nation.

If you are trespassing on private property and the owner asks you to leave you must leave or be charged with trespass if you do not leave. If you leave you do not have to ID. The cop cannot ask the owner to trespass you.

Did not see that information at :24. It will be interesting to see if the charges stuck.

[NurseJackie]

23. Once again, this is not about me.

Wow you are way out there

Once again, this is not about me. It serves no good purpose to try and insult people.

Did not see that information at :24.

Well, I assure you it's there. You can deny it all you want, but the frauditor clearly states his location. The "Team Skeptic" also provides links to all the original videos as well... he has nothing to hide.

You have to arrest someone for breaking a LAW you can't just arrest people.

Causing a disturbance and trespassing after being told to leave is "breaking the law".

So whose property is public property. I pay for it. I maintain it. I heat and cool it. Whose is it then? You think the police own it? The government owns it. WE OWN IT.

No, it's government property... it's not your property. I'd be interested in seeing those heating and cooling bills you pay.

It will be interesting to see if the charges stuck.

It doesn't matter if they "stick" or not. Many judges are lenient for first time or non-violent offenders. Other judges find guilt, but give suspended sentences (and the frauditors claim that as a soaring success too)

[The Jungle 1]

27. Wow just as I thought

GRESHAM P.D, Oregon thanks for the information it completely supports everything I posted.

****The D.A. has declined prosecution!*****
The cops completely screwed the pooch again.
You may like what they did but they were wrong and un-American! They acted like a bunch of fascist thugs and the town will be sued now. Me I support the rule of LAW. I do not support fascist thugs making shit up as they go along. These fascist police will be stopped. America will not stand for it.

GRESHAM P.D. 503-618-2318
LIEUTENANT Smith 503-618-3176
City hall 503-661-3000
City Attorney 503-618-2507
Don't call.

"Causing a disturbance and trespassing after being told to leave is "breaking the law"."
Apparently not. It was not a disturbance and it was not trespassing. There was no law broken. Just cops with big egos that got a little hurt. Also some government employees who thought they had way more power than they do. Justice has been served!

So if it is not my property then I don't want to pay for it anymore. Tell me something who is this thing you call "the government".
Seems to me I remember hearing something about "We the people". It is my property and you are off the mark. I and all Americans own America.

[NurseJackie]

28. That's the prosecutor's decision to make. The arrest was justified.

That's his decision to make. The arrest was justified. He's now been trespassed from the property and he'll be rightfully arrested again when he returns to harass government employees and the people who want to peacefully use the post office.

Arrest doesn't mean guilt... that's for the prosecutor or judge to decide.

So if it is not my property then I don't want to pay for it anymore.

Okay. I think you should pursue that and stop all payments.

It is my property and you are off the mark. I and all Americans own America.

The youtube frauditors that you're quoting and who believe such things and who use that as justification to behave unlawfully and to harass others and to trespass are delusional.

[The Jungle 1]

30. The arrest was not justified and the cops knew it.

Their egos were inflamed and they just had to do something and had to get their way.

He will be allowed to go back on that property because the trespass is unjustified.
THE LAW says you have to break the LAW to be trespassed from public property. We are a nation of LAWS. The cops do not get to make up the law.
This is exactly what I said from the start. These folks are fighting for our freedom and rights. You just want to give up your freedom and rights.

[NurseJackie]

31. Of course it was justified.

The frauditor was a nuisance and was harassing employees and preventing the public from transacting business in a peaceful way.

These folks are fighting for our freedom and rights.

No they're not. They're fighting for "clicks" on their monetized youtube channels from gullible fans who send money and other "sovereign citizen" types.

You just want to give up your freedom and rights.

I support law and order. I support the police who arrested this jerk.

[The Jungle 1]

32. Ok well

If nuisance is what is needed for arrest then you should be arrested :0 .
I saw no video of him harassing anyone. He was peacefully filming. The employees approached HIM. They were harassing HIM. The police approached HIM. The police harassed HIM.

"I support law and order. I support the police who arrested this jerk."
But you also support torture of innocent Americans with tasers.
The DA knew he could not make a case against this guy. Because he was innocent. So you also support fascist police arresting innocent Americans.
If you support law and order then you would be fully against unlawful arrests. Being a nuisance is not against the law in America.
You have totally lost all positions you presented. Yo stop digging yer in a hole.

[GoneOffShore]

34. Fascinating. But still wrong.

[NurseJackie]

35. No, his filming was not "peaceful". He was being disruptive.

The employees approached HIM. They were harassing HIM. The police approached HIM. The police harassed HIM.

Oh, so for no reason at all this fellow keeps getting harrassed, out of the blue. Like flies on shit, eh?

But you also support torture of innocent Americans with tasers.

Ridiculous. I support police officers using non-lethal means to subdue aggressive people into being compliant and obeying lawful orders.

So you also support fascist police arresting innocent Americans.

He was not innocent. He was refusing to leave. He was trespassing. The arrest was justified.

Being a nuisance is not against the law in America.

Actually, in many circumstances it is. Also refusing to leave when lawfully told to do so, and trespassing is against the law.

You have totally lost all positions you presented.

No I haven't.

If nuisance is what is needed for arrest then you should be arrested

I'm not going to take the bait. You keep trying to make this about me. It's not about me. Do not threaten me.

It's about these idiotic frauditor youtubers, sov-cit youtubers, and flat-earth youtubers who get all their information and legal advice from the youtube echo-chamber.

[The Jungle 1]

36. So why

The DA refused to take this case. He ignored the police and their false charges. The DAs reaction is huge.

Why do American police hate our freedom?
Why can't Americans mind their own business?
Minding your own business is part of freedom.
Produce the statute that this auditor was broke?
***Public property is open to public use.***
Fascist police cannot dictate that use!

If the people working at the post office don't like public use of public property then they should quit.

So a lot of Americans like to control other Americans. You can see this attempt at control on many post on many sites. Many times these folks will not post anything but attacks. They offer no original information.

[NurseJackie]

37. Ridiculous.

[NurseJackie]

39. No... The frauditors are as delusional as anti-vaxxers.

[markpkessinger]

40. He was filming at some distance away from the employees . . .

. . . and was not impeding operations in any way. The only "disturbance" that came about was because the postal employees got their knickers in a twist over it.

[MenloParque]

12. Leave the Post office alone! Keep the cameras and pressure on the fucking cops!!

Always film any contact with law enforcement!

[NurseJackie]

13. I admire how the police handle these "auditors".

[The Jungle 1]

15. Agreed film all police contact.