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He died of a heart attack waiting 12+ hrs in the ER. Nurse said, 'Welcome to American Healthcare!' (Original Post) egbertowillies Feb 2022 OP
A friend had a stent put in in the er hallway questionseverything Feb 2022 #1
Profit seekers I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2022 #2
Don't blame that nurse, s/he was doing the best s/he could Warpy Feb 2022 #3
Terrifying for those of us with ongoing or underlying conditions. Grasswire2 Feb 2022 #4
A family member has to go to the local clinic DURHAM D Feb 2022 #5
Psst: Don't eat the standard American Diet and you can avoid heart attacks. (its the sugar and carbs magicguido Feb 2022 #6

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
2. Profit seekers
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 01:10 AM
Feb 2022

Need very short leashes and they must be kicked out of certain things like government and healthcare.


I hate capitalism. That guy with the heart attack? He died for Capitalism .

I wish so bad capitalism was seen for what it IS,in real life. Not theories not horatio algier, not the damn market abstractions and what it will do to it.. look at how capitalism forces us to Live,or in that poor guys situation..not live.

We have to do better.
For all our sakes.

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
3. Don't blame that nurse, s/he was doing the best s/he could
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 01:22 AM
Feb 2022

Hospital CEOs, usually MBAs instead of MDs, will do anything to avoid hiring adequate permanent staff. Nurses are beyond overwork. They're exhausted and fed up. Something like 20% have already quit in favor of something else, anything else, making a bad situation even worse but I sure as hell can't blame them.

You want to blame somebody, blame conservatives in both parties over the last 80 or so years in do nothing congress after do nothing congress, refusing to do anything about our health care mess because some rich guy might get his nose out of joint. Blame the hospital system that bleats about customer satisfaction instead of survival rates, some actually having the effrontery to hand nurses laminated cards with pat speeches on them that have zero to do with patient care and everything to do with C-level executive egos. Blame doctors who have consistently refused to stand up for nurses as hospitals have spent decades cutting costs on the backs of non physician personnel. Blame the fucking insurance lobby for spending millions to defeat any health care initiative, no matter how timid, just because they can. Blame union busters and supine state legislatures auditioning for doormats..

There is a lot of blame to go around but let that nurse off the hook. Civilians have no idea what it's like to be dead on your feet and have some suit come around and chirp "do more with less," when hospital staff know they're one mistake due to exhaustion away from losing their livelihoods because the hospital brass are too cheap to hire more staff, the worst case scenario being that a patient gets injured, and I'm not talking about hurt feelings from an exhausted person who has little control over what's falling out of his or her mouth.

Take the education. This IS the American health care system and it is in shambles. The best advice I can give anyone right now is don't get sick or injured. There is a reason over 900.000 people are dead of Covid so far, and it's not due to one overtired and tactless nurse.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
4. Terrifying for those of us with ongoing or underlying conditions.
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 01:30 AM
Feb 2022

We try to hold it together until the pandemic is under better control.

I'm afraid to even go to the clinic for lab work.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
5. A family member has to go to the local clinic
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 01:33 AM
Feb 2022

at least once a week. The whole family refers to it as The Petri Dish.

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