Why Are We Declaring Victory Over Covid? - The Mehdi Hasan Show

[Rhiannon12866]

More blue states are easing mask mandates and other pandemic restrictions, despite death rates and new case numbers that remain high. Mehdi talks to Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding and Dr. Peter Hotez about whether the desire for a return to normal is flying in the face of reality. Aired on 02/09/2022.

[Deuxcents]

1. And that is my question. Not a good idea, imo

[Rhiannon12866]

3. I've been thinking about this all day, ever since I heard that our new governor plans to rescind

The mask mandate here in New York - yet again! New York is far from out of the woods, even here in the rural Northeast the local hospital is at 91% capacity in the ICU (last I heard). After requiring masks to enter any business for over a year, the mask mandate was suspended in July just in time for "tourist season" and we're still paying the price - so it was reinstated the second week of December and we're as far from "normal" as we can get!

[Rebl2]

2. The nursing

home my mother is in seems to have a lot of employees turning up positive since the first of the year and is still going on. What’s unusual is very few residents have gotten sick, and they recovered. By the way I am in MO.

[Rhiannon12866]

5. The residents are very lucky. Are the health care workers required to be vaccinated?

Here in rural Northeastern New York, those who work at the local hospital were required to be vaccinated by the end of September or their employment was terminated. And we still have a very high rate of hospital admissions, the local paper reports numbers of Covid cases, recoveries - and deaths - on the front page daily. And the numbers are not encouraging.

[AlexSFCA]

4. not victory but live with it forever

covid will not go away in our lifetime. Vaccine and boosters are effective to keep your from the hospital. This has been over for a while. N95 are abundant for a tiny tiny number of immunocompramised for whom vaccines are not as effective but covid is far from the only concern they would have anyway. Kids under 5 are at extremely low risk.

[Deuxcents]

6. I'm afraid you are right

Having said that, I’m not a gambler so masks still on for me. I’m good company so I stay home a lot. See my friends but not as often but stay in touch, of course. I don’t understand the thinking process about this “getting back to normal”.

[AlexSFCA]

7. the thinking is covid is no longer an issue with vaccines and boosters

those who want to die or damage their lungs - have the choice to do so. Thankfully, it’s mostly lunatics who willingly do not want to get vaccinated. We should be focusing on helping developing world and end all restrictions in the US like Denmark did. It’s called progress, I happen to embrace it. And no one is preventing anyone from wearing a mask - n95 protects you both ways, what is the issue. Liberal dems are emerging as pro vaccine mandates but anti restrictions - this is the right way out of it and is supported by science.

[Deuxcents]

8. Hmm not following

The end to restrictions like US n Denmark.. are you referring to vaccines?

[AlexSFCA]

9. no, I am referring to Denmark lifting all covid restrictions

like traveling, like masks, like quarantines, etc. This is exactly what you do when you have effective vaccines and boosters widely available for a long time.

[Deuxcents]

12. I would agree if all would participate

Don’t know about Denmark but people are people n if they don’t adhere to the science, it doesn’t seem to work.

[PSPS]

10. I guess you "did your own research." Almost everything in your post is wrong.

[AlexSFCA]

13. not "my own research" but CDC and Fauci

“if you are vaccinated and boosted, you are protected”. Full stop.

[Missn-Hitch]

14. What do you suggest?

[Martin68]

11. As far was I'm aware, no one of any import has "declared victory over Covid."

Fauci just announced the the worst of it is over. That means if we keep precautions in place, hospitals will not be overwhelmed with Covid cases. No one declared "victory" over the flu. If you get an inoculation, your chances of being hospitalized are minimized. Flu will continue to be with us for the foreseeable future. The Covid is here to stay, but is now manageable as long as people like Trump and De Santis are not in charge.

[VarryOn]

15. We don't have victory, but we are gaining on it...

We have needed better therapeutics and are about to get them. With the vaccines and new therapeutics, I'm personally more optimistic that I've been in along time.

It's so nice to fly again, go to football games and races, go out to restaurants, see movies in a theater, and go back to church. Really, the only noticeable restriction now is having to wear the mask at the airport and on planes and at the occasional drs appointment.

We just need any additional variants to be weaker than the previous, just like omicron.

[relayerbob]

16. Because we can