Former CIA director: 'It's going abysmally' for Putin (CNN)

[ItsjustMe]

Former CIA director and retired US Army Gen. David Petraeus tells CNN why providing “a way out” for Putin out of ongoing diplomatic negotiations between Ukrainian and Russian delegations will prove critical.

[Tetrachloride]

1. Negotiable

1. Retreat and land control
2. Reparations in the hundreds of billions
3. NATO
4. EU
5. the yachts
6. Oil and gas

to name the obvious ones

[The Jungle 1]

2. Russia is presenting a paper dragon.

Iraq had a large army and air force. We shut them down. The first act was to destroy their radar. As time went on Iraq flew their fighters to Iran. Because every time the fighters went up we shot them down.
Russia is still not controlling the air space!
Nothing is going well for russia. The whole thing is fubar.

About 5,000 contract soldiers, who were hastily collected to be sent to Ukraine, refused to go to fight for Putin on the territory of our state. Reported by KOS

The russian economy is in full collapses. Who knew that the world had a switch and could turn off a countries economy. This has happened in less than a week! To me the economic war is the most enlightening part of the whole thing. Economies have always been part of war. However I don't know of any point in history where the WORLD turned off the economy of another country and did it in days. I think I like this world economy thing. There is a huge lesson being learned.

[TeamProg]

3. Petraeus knows some things due to his previous positions - but he's STILL A FUCKING A-HOLE.

His fragile and insecure ego has him bragging about an invasion in Iraq that really didn't go so well.. Just ask Sen. Tammy Duckworth. And Petraeus is saying Putin's plan was not well thought out for the long run...

Both this Ukraine and our Iraq invasions are present and historical disasters.