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L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 10:06 AM Mar 2022

Joe: Putin Has Used Nuclear Blackmail Against Us, And It's Time We Start Pushing Back

Joe Scarborough reacts to President Biden's speech in Warsaw on the Russian invasion of Ukraine and why he says it's time to start speaking clearly to Vladimir Putin.

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Joe: Putin Has Used Nuclear Blackmail Against Us, And It's Time We Start Pushing Back (Original Post) L. Coyote Mar 2022 OP
AB...So...Lute...LY Me. Mar 2022 #1
It is, and a question that nags me is who will be next. if Ukraine is somehow seen as RKP5637 Mar 2022 #2
Can Russia sustain this war? They quickly discovered they couldn't even supply their own troops. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #4
To me a solution, as someone else said and Biden is doing, is sanctions. I hope RKP5637 Mar 2022 #6
The Russain people need to understand Putin has isolated them from the rest of the world. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #8
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2022 #9
Russians are not Americans though. Jetheels Mar 2022 #10
Sad, but quite true!!! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2022 #11
So, what do we do? Chainfire Mar 2022 #3
We do what we are doing. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #5
I fully agree. Chainfire Mar 2022 #7

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
2. It is, and a question that nags me is who will be next. if Ukraine is somehow seen as
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 10:26 AM
Mar 2022

a victory to Putin, then who will be next. The "I have nukes" is not going away IMO with Ukraine. He will move on to another non-Nato country IMO with the same line. I don't have the solution, but I see it likely coming.

L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
4. Can Russia sustain this war? They quickly discovered they couldn't even supply their own troops.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 10:36 AM
Mar 2022

They seem to be stuck near the borders, Belarus railways are being sabotaged so that front may collapse soon. Their losses, troops and equipment, are enormous and unexpected.


RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
6. To me a solution, as someone else said and Biden is doing, is sanctions. I hope
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 10:43 AM
Mar 2022

heavy sanctions are maintained against Russia. The people need to clearly see what their leader has brought to them. That IMO would be a most effective deterrent ... that, and how his invasion has failed. ... and that the world sees their leader as an abusive fool.

L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
8. The Russain people need to understand Putin has isolated them from the rest of the world.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 10:54 AM
Mar 2022

They need to understand the world sees Putin as a war criminal, as someone doing to Ukraine what Hitler did to Russia, an invasion of conquest.

 

Jetheels

(991 posts)
10. Russians are not Americans though.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 11:05 AM
Mar 2022

They expect very little. They’re content living without much comforts. As long as their leader doesn’t throw them in the gulag they’re fine. They have made peace living in a government that is corrupt from head to toe. It’s the way of life there. It’s an old country. Unlike USA. Which will turn into a similar government if thugs, oligarchs, billionaires, whatever you want to call them, continue to destroy our country.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
3. So, what do we do?
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 10:33 AM
Mar 2022

Do we threaten to melt Moscow if Putin threatens us again? Putin is not "winning" now, why escalate? I agree with what our President said, sanctions should remain or increase as long as the Russians have a madman running their country, but I don't want to let testosterone destroy civilization.

It was good for Putin to hear that we have had enough of his shit. Lets see where it goes from there. Make no mistake, we will kill a lot more Ukrainians (and everybody else) by starting a nuclear war than by not...It is always an option, lets don't rush it.

Biden is doing a great job under very difficult circumstances, let him lead, that is why we hired him.

L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
5. We do what we are doing.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 10:40 AM
Mar 2022

The impact of sanctions is incremental, and soon Russia won't have what they need to keep their country running smoothly, airline parts, chips for manufacturing, etc.

Imposing sanctions incrementally in response to Russia's actions has been a proper response.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
7. I fully agree.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 10:49 AM
Mar 2022

I don't get all of the saber rattling. Anyone with a heart and a mind is deeply disturbed by what is happening to the Ukrainian people. We know the blame lies on the Russian leadership, but a lot of us don't want to destroy the world in response. It makes me wonder if a lot of people do not realize what would happen in an exchange of nuclear weapons.

I am glad that we have a smart, stable, mature, man leading our country today. He has access to information that we don't. I am not a blind follower of any leader, but I don't need to second guess the way that Joe Biden is handling this situation.

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