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SE Cupp: The real reason Elon Musk is planning on voting Republican (Original Post) Mr. Sparkle May 2022 OP
Sippi Cupp was a big time GOP, Gun Waving, and the Iraq war was a good idea person not too long ago. Botany May 2022 #1
She says, in short, that the Republican party is the party of corruption, pnwmom May 2022 #5
I think the opinions of former Republicans are very worthwhile. Native May 2022 #6
Not until they show a Democratic Party registration and vote Democratic in 2 election cycles ancianita May 2022 #9
She hasn't written a book in 10 years. nt pnwmom May 2022 #19
That's harsh. madaboutharry May 2022 #10
She Wants The R's To Be The Tea Party Again OhioTim May 2022 #12
If she has changed because she has "seen the light" good on her then "me so bad." Warning Image Botany May 2022 #14
That shows how extreme the GOP has gotten over the years IronLionZion May 2022 #15
That was a waste of two minutes and 39 seconds 3Hotdogs May 2022 #2
I thought it was dead on. Native May 2022 #7
I heard SE stands for Shit Eating! People - top people - are saying it all the time!... bringthePaine May 2022 #3
He needs more people in the south and rural areas to buy electric vehicles. texasfiddler May 2022 #4
I think he cares more about his ego and keeping his plants segregated. Native May 2022 #8
Ummm, Ms. Cupp? lonely bird May 2022 #11
Yeah, they've just gone a bit beyond the point where she's comfortable... keep_left May 2022 #13
I don't know... lonely bird May 2022 #16
I don't know... lonely bird May 2022 #17
I dunno, Please SE, submit your registration to the 2live is 2fly May 2022 #18

Botany

(70,490 posts)
1. Sippi Cupp was a big time GOP, Gun Waving, and the Iraq war was a good idea person not too long ago.
Sat May 21, 2022, 08:48 AM
May 2022

Even if this video is anti republican and anti Trump I don't believe a word she says.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
5. She says, in short, that the Republican party is the party of corruption,
Sat May 21, 2022, 09:34 AM
May 2022

where awful people go to absolve each other of their crimes.

But you don't believe a word she says?

Native

(5,940 posts)
6. I think the opinions of former Republicans are very worthwhile.
Sat May 21, 2022, 09:46 AM
May 2022

S.E. is a nationally syndicated columnist, author and commentator. She is author of the book “Losing Our Religion: The Liberal Media’s Attack on Christianity” and co-author of the book “Why You’re Wrong About the Right.” She is a CNN contributor.

Her most recent articles:
* Good riddance to Madison Cawthorn
* You don’t have to be pro-choice to oppose overturning Roe
* Marjorie Taylor Greene is a menace to decency
* When a ruthless Russian dictator is a big fan, you’re definitely doing it wrong
* Conservatism is dead in this GOP
Etc... all as a columnist for the Chicago Sun Times

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
9. Not until they show a Democratic Party registration and vote Democratic in 2 election cycles
Sat May 21, 2022, 09:59 AM
May 2022

would I believe any Republican.

Look at her book titles. Her books tell you who she is. Believe that before believing her late-to-reality articles.

madaboutharry

(40,208 posts)
10. That's harsh.
Sat May 21, 2022, 10:01 AM
May 2022

You don’t believe that people can evolve or change their opinions?

I found her previous incarnation to be highly obnoxious. However, she has now denounced the Republican Party. Give her a little credit.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
14. If she has changed because she has "seen the light" good on her then "me so bad." Warning Image
Sat May 21, 2022, 12:50 PM
May 2022

However if she has flopped on where she stands on the issues because that is where the money is now
then fuck her. Besides she was a big time w supporter who stole two elections ... FL 2000 & OH
2004, started a war so Dick Cheney could make bank, blew off 80 warnings about 9-11, let the
industry run mine safety .... see Big Branch Mine explosion, let bin Laden walk at Tora Bora, outed
a CIA agent which no doubt resulted in God only knows how many deaths, started ISIS and the
massive human suffering and refugee crisis, turned the EPA & Dept. of Interior over to the polluters,
allowed for the deaths of over 1 million wild run salmon in CA (see dick cheney), started unneeded
wars in Iraq & Afghanistan, and ... and yet Sippy Cup pushed his (really Cheney's) bullshit & lies 24/7.

Does this little boy whose family was fleeing from ISIS get a "do over?"

http://www.trbimg.com/img-55e7809f/turbine/la-fg-syria-drowned-toddler-20150902



texasfiddler

(1,990 posts)
4. He needs more people in the south and rural areas to buy electric vehicles.
Sat May 21, 2022, 09:34 AM
May 2022

Speaking their language just might do it.

lonely bird

(1,685 posts)
11. Ummm, Ms. Cupp?
Sat May 21, 2022, 10:04 AM
May 2022

Here’s the problem: the GOP of today IS conservatism. Limited government is either never defined or is defined as preventing things that conservatives don’t want. Conservatives want government when THEY want it and it must spring fully formed from the brow of Zeus. The deficit is defined as unimportant when conservatives are in power and the end of the world when Democrats are in power.

keep_left

(1,783 posts)
13. Yeah, they've just gone a bit beyond the point where she's comfortable...
Sat May 21, 2022, 12:43 PM
May 2022

...with them. When they were the Tea Party--when they were being transported from protest to protest on Koch-brothers-funded tour buses--and acted like more "normal" reactionaries, dressed up in tricorner hats and Pilgrim outfits, they were fine. Once they got their own nutty ideas and started making Q websites (after they got booted from Reddit) and talking about how Da Jooz Be Controlin' Da World, that was a bridge too far.

I'm willing to cut Sippy Cupp some slack here; I believe she is disturbed by these reactionary and fascist movements. But she doesn't seem to get that what happened is that the GOP lost control of its base. The constant push toward one-upmanship on the part of everyone from their candidates to radio talkers led directly to this. How could she not see this coming nearly two decades ago with Michael Savage et al?

lonely bird

(1,685 posts)
16. I don't know...
Sat May 21, 2022, 04:56 PM
May 2022

The foundations were laid in the late ‘40’s and early ‘50’s by Kirk, Strauss and, to borrow from Laugh-in, FBuckley. Many say Goldwater wouldn’t be welcome in today’s GOP nor would Reagan. I say that that is bullshit. Sure, Goldwater didn’t like the religionists but that didn’t stop him from opposing civil rights. Reagan was so fucking tone-deaf to civil rights as well as AIDS and gays as to be considered stupid. No, the Republican Party started down this path 70+ years ago. What has happened is both a direct result of simplistic solutions and sloganeering, a willingness to turn a blind eye to hatred and absolute fear over shifting demographics. Fear sells. They have sold it so well that they are starting to reap the whirlwind. Unfortunately, the rest of us are also caught in that whirlwind.

lonely bird

(1,685 posts)
17. I don't know...
Sat May 21, 2022, 04:59 PM
May 2022

The foundations were laid in the late ‘40’s and early ‘50’s by Kirk, Strauss and, to borrow from Laugh-in, FBuckley. Many say Goldwater wouldn’t be welcome in today’s GOP nor would Reagan. I say that that is bullshit. Sure, Goldwater didn’t like the religionists but that didn’t stop him from opposing civil rights. Reagan was so fucking tone-deaf to civil rights as well as AIDS and gays as to be considered stupid. No, the Republican Party started down this path 70+ years ago. What has happened is both a direct result of simplistic solutions and sloganeering, a willingness to turn a blind eye to hatred and absolute fear over shifting demographics. Fear sells. They have sold it so well that they are starting to reap the whirlwind. Unfortunately, the rest of us are also caught in that whirlwind.

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