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BACK IN SESSION -- House Judiciary Committee Debates merits of the HR 7910 Protecting Our Kids Act. (Original Post) ancianita Jun 2022 OP
Thanks, I just logged on to CSPAN. nt Delmette2.0 Jun 2022 #1
Dems are not laying out enough on the parts of the bill that do not infringe on Americans' rights. ancianita Jun 2022 #2
FINALLY. Pramila Jayapal lays out the numbers of what works in other democracies. ancianita Jun 2022 #3
RECESS. During which time I have to say ancianita Jun 2022 #4

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
2. Dems are not laying out enough on the parts of the bill that do not infringe on Americans' rights.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 11:34 AM
Jun 2022

Last edited Thu Jun 2, 2022, 01:40 PM - Edit history (1)

Those parts should be driven by BATF data on assault weapons manufacturing, distribution, purchase and murder rates. Dems are not laying out enough of the numbers of school deaths. House Dems don't lay out the total number of AR-15 murders across 15 mass shootings.

House Dems don't lay out the number of past denials and approvals at purchase points by the assault weapons ban; they don't point out the ways the bill will monitor point of purchase background checks passed and denied at higher age levels.


There's a bit too much reactive emotionality from Dems. Besides not laying out assault weapons data, they are not laying out even greater data evidence of harm, loss, and damage to the communities that have already suffered mass murders.



ancianita

(36,053 posts)
3. FINALLY. Pramila Jayapal lays out the numbers of what works in other democracies.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 11:54 AM
Jun 2022

The NEXT guy, Greg Steube, visually presents all the guns the Dems would ban. He compares Florida cities to larger cities WITHOUT using per capita numbers, saying that Chicago, Baltimore and other cities have the strictest laws and lays out "how many times more one is LIKELY to be murdered" in those cities than in red states and how many FEWER DEATHS those smaller red state cities have than larger blue state cities. Pffffft

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
4. RECESS. During which time I have to say
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 02:28 PM
Jun 2022

the Democrats, while offering some numbers, and while showing wider historical context of assault weapon murders, are still not good at rebuttal.

They don't have their rebuttal points down with past historical data to squash Republican arguments. They don't even properly call out and label all the Republican deflections and attacks by the usual attack dog Republicans -- Bishop on Jones; Jordan on the whole Democratic majority -- who they see derail this bill debate into partisan attacks.

If Republicans are going to waste time in derailing these debates with deflection and partisan attack on how the Dems are moving to remove the Second Amendment, actual voices of the public should be at the microphone, too; such public voices wouldn't be any more time wasting than the Republicans are.

Whether they pass this bill to the House floor for a vote or not, this committee meeting was disappointing. There could have been tighter planning and control of the above in advance of the arguments they knew were coming.

But they'll 'do something.'

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