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(8,387 posts)Did she introduce a resolution to do that?
Like, she's in the House of Representatives. The way one starts an impeachment is introducing Articles in the House, not announcing it on a TV show.
comradebillyboy
(10,143 posts)Too busy tweeting and being a social media star.
Escurumbele
(3,386 posts)mislead during the confirmations of those judges, and she pointed out that THEY should begin the resolution to investigate the judges.
I have read many of your contributions in DU, just today, and you seem to be very critical about anything Democratic, I am starting to have some questions about your goals at DU.
I really don't intend to get into a back-and-forth with you, I read the back-and-forth you had on another blog, your comments are not what I would expect at DU, and mind me, I am all for freedom of speech and against people reporting anyone whose opinions they don't like, but you seem, at least so far, to be very consistent with many of your talking points.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)The way that impeachment works, is that the House of Representatives passes Articles of Impeachment. These are then sent over to the Senate for trial.
Manchin and Collins are both in the SENATE. They cannot do diddly squat to initiate an impeachment.
That is the process of impeachment as set forth in the Constitution. It is not anti-Democratic to point out that it is solely up to a member of the House of Representatives, which AOC happens to be, to get that process started.
bucolic_frolic
(43,128 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(3,491 posts)They never said they wouldnt overturn Roe. They used weasel words and careful parsing to step around it but theres no straight up perjury.
Nice thought, not going to happen.
speak easy
(9,238 posts)Escurumbele
(3,386 posts)Roe v. Wade is important precedent of the Supreme Court that has been reaffirmed many times. But then Planned and this is the point that I want to make that I think is important. Planned Parenthood v. Casey reaffirmed Roe and did so by considering the stare decisis factors, he said in 2018. So Casey now becomes a precedent on precedent. It is not as if it is just a run-of-the-mill case that was decided and never been reconsidered, but Casey specifically reconsidered it, applied the stare decisis factors, and decided to reaffirm it. That makes Casey a precedent on precedent.
What Gorsuch said:
Roe v. Wade, decided in 1973, is a precedent of the U.S. Supreme Court. It has been reaffirmed. The reliance interest considerations are important there, and all of the other factors that go into analyzing precedent have to be considered, he told senators in March 2017. It is a precedent of the U.S. Supreme Court. It was reaffirmed in Casey in 1992 and in several other cases. So a good judge will consider it as precedent of the U.S. Supreme Court worthy as treatment of precedent like any other.
He added, For a judge to start tipping his or her hand about whether they like or dislike this or that precedent would send the wrong signal. It would send the signal to the American people that the judges personal views have something to do with the judges job.
Alito:
Roe v. Wade is an important precedent of the Supreme Court. It was decided in 1973, so it has been on the books for a long time, he said.
But he stopped short of calling the landmark ruling settled law.
If settled means it cant be re-examined, then thats one thing, he told senators on the Judiciary Committee. If settled means that it is a precedent that is entitled to respect as stare decisis, and all of the factors that Ive mentioned come into play, including the reaffirmation and all of that, then it is a precedent that is protected, entitled to respect under the doctrine of stare decisis in that way.
He added, It has been challenged. It has been reaffirmed. But it is an issue that is involved in litigation now at all levels.
You can read the rest here:
[link:https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/06/25/us/abortion-roe-wade-supreme-court#scotus-justices-roe-wade-abortion|
2naSalit
(86,542 posts)Srkdqltr
(6,271 posts)To be 25, 5'7" and 125lbs. That isn't going too happen either.