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Brian interviews former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner about who Trump likely pardoned and how we know, whether theres any reason the DOJ wouldnt indict Trump, and what Trumps legal recourse would be if hes actually charged.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Who?
erronis
(15,181 posts)Sounds like click-bait that I'll stay away from.
Martin68
(22,765 posts)erronis
(15,181 posts)...
Martin68
(22,765 posts)very relevant takeaway. Another is that a court can view giving a pardon to co-conspirators as evidence of guilt. The fact that family members did not plead the fifth when questioned under oath suggests they may have been given pardons. By the same token, the fact that some conspirators who were very close to the president were not given pardons could indicate an attempt to avoid the appearance of guilt. Anybody who pleads the fifth must not have a pardon. The process of elimination based on these principles makes for an interesting method of guessing who might or might not have a pocket pardon waiting to be pulled out if an indictment comes down.
The big unanswered question is whether the Supreme Court would nullify a pardon if evidence suggested the president and the person who received a pardon were both involved in the same crime. In normal times, I think that might be likely. With this court, all bets are off.
erronis
(15,181 posts)FakeNoose
(32,579 posts)This list hasn't been a secret, even during the last days of Chump's term. Is Glenn Kirschner implying that other people got pardons that we don't know about?
erronis
(15,181 posts)I'm sure I don't remember the actual name of the official group.
A president (according to Kirschner) can write a pardon on a napkin and hand it to someone to use later as needed.
Martin68
(22,765 posts)making it possible for a president to "write a pardon on a cocktail napkin and hand it to someone for later use.
erronis
(15,181 posts)Rolled up a lot of the legal bits and pieces in a digestible pizza.