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viva la

(3,289 posts)
1. Well, sure, and she's also Darth Vader's daughter.
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 08:20 PM
Jul 2022

However, I'm very happy that she can be used against Trump and his whole horrible minion pus-pile.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
10. It was a popular RW talking point in 2019, when this video clip was made.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 01:47 AM
Jul 2022

She doesn't call us the "Democrat Party" anymore. She now calls us by our name, the Democratic Party.

That video was from 2019. I think her change of tone may be because she finally saw REAL evil on 1/6/2021, and has put aside the anti-abortion, anti-Democratic Party bullshit, at least for now. I think she saw how dangerous it could be to repeat the lies of the stupid GOP base.

Bashing her at this point serves no purpose.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
3. Except that she has and uses her brain.
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 08:30 PM
Jul 2022

Except that she draws the line at going against her oath to Congress.

Except that she doesn't grab women by the pussy and expect them to be happy about it.

Except that SHE didn't want to actually be at the front of the line when the insurrectionists breached the Capitol because she was busy trying to find some place to be where she wouldn't be shot.

etc etc..


PULEESE

Bev54

(10,051 posts)
6. I am sorry but anybody that believes that dems are killing babies and want to
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 08:57 PM
Jul 2022

is pretty close to Q conspiracy. She is only with the dems against Trump because the republican establishment (her father's friends and allies) wants him gone. She is right up there with the rest of the republican party in their racist Q ways.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
7. She is still a Republican, but not a Q Anon believer. She slapped that shit down.
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 09:09 PM
Jul 2022
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/liz-cheney-qanon-is-dangerous-lunacy/

House GOP conference chair Liz Cheney issued a statement on Thursday condemning a conspiracy theory promoted by House GOP candidate Marjorie Taylor Greene, who won a runoff election in northwest Georgia last week.

“QAnon is dangerous lunacy that should have no place in American politics,” Cheney said.


https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2021/0207/Rep.-Liz-Cheney-We-are-the-party-of-Lincoln-not-QAnon

She also was critical of her House colleagues for standing behind Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, saying that her party — not Democrats — should have been the ones to punish the hard-right Georgia Republican for her online embrace of racist and violent views and bizarre conspiracy theories. The Democratic-led House on Thursday voted to strip Greene of her assignments on the House Education and Budget committees, with only 11 Republicans joining to support the move.

“We are the party of Lincoln, we are not the party of QAnon or anti-Semitism or Holocaust-deniers, or white supremacy or conspiracy theories. That’s not who we are,” Cheney said.

wnylib

(21,445 posts)
12. Party of Lincoln?
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 03:00 AM
Jul 2022

They are also the party of Dick Cheney, who became VP through a SC appointment, the party who embraced the disinformation of Karl Rove in the 2000 presidential campaign that made Liz's father VP, the party who used the belligerence of hired thugs to disrupt vote counting in Florida in 2000, the party that led the US into a "preemptive" war in Iraq through false WMD claims - a war that benefited Dick Cheney's Halliburton, the party that promoted the Enron pyramid scheme.

So much for the honesty of the party of honest Abe.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
16. The Lincoln Group is trying to get back to civility and away from MAGA
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 07:35 PM
Jul 2022

I get all that you said, and never thought I would see a Cheney that made me believe ANYTHING they said.

HOWEVER, somehow, maybe because Putin is a lot more involved than anyone knows, even DARTH CHENEY's daughter would rather that things don't keep going in this direction.

EVERYONE has their limits. And I, like you, figured that anyone coming out of the Cheney lineage would be up for shooting someone in the face just because they were a lawyer. I had written them off.

BUT then, there is also Mary Trump. Somewhat removed from the direct lineage, but she is also speaking truth to power.

Times like these make weird allies.

But she is asking her people to step away from the MAGA and KKK, so that message, I can support.

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
4. Don Winslow is on a Twitter crusade against Liz Cheney.
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 08:44 PM
Jul 2022

I think we can all agree that her politics are rather atrocious.

What Mr. Winslow fails to recognize is that people who have completely different political views from us can also be decent people. Sure, her views on abortion are nuts. But the women isn’t a Nazi or an authoritarian. She’s a right-winger. Fine.

She also is a defender of democracy. She is fighting to keep this country a democracy where people will have the freedom to say whatever they want about politicians they don’t like.

People should acknowledge that and honor her patriotism.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
9. No, she is NOT "just like Trump." She believes in democracy.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 01:43 AM
Jul 2022

That clip of her was from 2019. She is not saying this abortion lie now. We NEED her on the J6 Committee.

If she loses her seat, there is NO Republican who will replace her. And she is doing a great job. She is certainly not repeating any lies from her position on the J6 Committee.

That video was from 2019, not 2022, as suggested by Winslow's misleading post. Not cool.

She doesn't call us the "Democrat Party" anymore like in that video. She calls us by our name, the Democratic Party. I think her change of tone may be because she finally saw REAL evil on 1/6/2021, and has put aside the anti-abortion, anti-Democratic Party bullshit, at least for now. I think she saw how dangerous it could be to repeat the lies of the stupid GOP base.

Bashing her at this point serves no purpose. She needs help or she is on track to lose the GOP primary in Wyoming. The Dem candidate has no chance. Whoever wins the GOP primary will win the Wyoming House seat. Why would we want Liz Chaney replaced by a pro big lie Republican?

Why is Winslow attacking her? How does this help us?

wnylib

(21,445 posts)
13. She represents corporate autocracy
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 03:11 AM
Jul 2022

more than democracy. Trump's self-serving instability and unpredictability are bad for business. She wants to return the country to the "principles" of Reagan, both Bushes, her father, and Karl Rove.

I appreciate the fact that Liz and the Democratic Party share a common interest in bringing down Trump and his acolytes. But I do not put her on a pedestal.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
14. Nobody is putting her on a pedestal. What I don't understand is the bashing at this critical time.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 01:19 PM
Jul 2022

I fucking know she is a Republican. What's your point? Focus. We need her on the J6 Committee. She needs to win the GOP primary in Wyoming.

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