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Preacher confronts Beto on abortion issue at townhall while carrying AR-15 (Original Post) TexasTowelie Jul 2022 OP
Proper protocol should be to take the asswipe out with a head shot randr Jul 2022 #1
no no no vlyons Jul 2022 #2
Yeah, Let's Play Nice SoCalDavidS Jul 2022 #15
That's absolutely not the point here. ShazzieB Jul 2022 #27
correct azureblue Jul 2022 #35
My point exactly randr Jul 2022 #44
Would this be different if someone walked in with a grenade or a bomb vest? erronis Jul 2022 #43
Oh heck no! ShazzieB Jul 2022 #22
as flippant azureblue Jul 2022 #37
Yes indeed! comradebillyboy Jul 2022 #32
There's no reason for anyone to carry that kind of weapon. FoxNewsSucks Jul 2022 #38
Well said! This armed individual was an immediate threat to Beto and to everyone in the room Rhiannon12866 Jul 2022 #56
These are the dumbest and most dangerous people on earth. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2022 #3
anyone with such a weapon at a campaign event should be treated as a potential assassin DBoon Jul 2022 #4
Exactly! dflprincess Jul 2022 #9
YES! What the ever loving fuck?... druidity33 Jul 2022 #10
Amen to that rurallib Jul 2022 #16
It's pathetic Traildogbob Jul 2022 #51
If the NRA can forbid weapons... SergeStorms Aug 2022 #59
Take your Jesus and stick him up your ass - you hillbilly. This exactly the reason walkingman Jul 2022 #5
I'm more offended by him asking if Beto has accepted Jesus as his savior vlyons Jul 2022 #31
He didn't bring Turbineguy Jul 2022 #6
I would so love to ask one of them this question. If they trust Jesus so Maraya1969 Jul 2022 #8
And had the GD nerve to ask Beto if he'd been BORN AGAIN and SAVED BY JEEBUS and that shit. CurtEastPoint Jul 2022 #7
Too bad the video cut off leftieNanner Jul 2022 #17
I know, right! ShazzieB Jul 2022 #30
People like that are a big part of the reason COL Mustard Jul 2022 #41
I've been concerned about Beto's safety during this campaign. texasfiddler Jul 2022 #11
Religion at the end of a gun. Nululu Jul 2022 #12
Ask that terrorist if his Jesus walked around with a sling shot Justice matters. Jul 2022 #13
There's the episode in the garden where the disciples armed themselves. plimsoll Jul 2022 #48
Yes, but Jesus chastised the disciples and healed the man summer_in_TX Jul 2022 #49
For cutting off the ear. plimsoll Jul 2022 #52
No doubt an American Taliban. Denvermosaic Jul 2022 #14
I would of had some questions for him. 58Sunliner Jul 2022 #18
Gov. Beto should have asked to inspect his weapon Aviation Pro Jul 2022 #19
WWJBADWATIT? Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #20
Perhaps the offering plate came up a little short today at church? TexasTowelie Jul 2022 #23
Me too. Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #29
Greg Abbott's Texas. SergeStorms Jul 2022 #21
You Have The Right Idea SoCalDavidS Jul 2022 #40
I'd like to live in a country..... SergeStorms Aug 2022 #58
It is not cowardly! BBbats Jul 2022 #57
What Would Jesus Do? AverageOldGuy Jul 2022 #24
That looks like a young Kenny Loggins! PJMcK Jul 2022 #28
This preacher clearly doesn't know Jesus' teachings PJMcK Jul 2022 #25
Rather than waste his time on this kind of crowd, maybe Beto could vet the audiences. Only go where housecat Jul 2022 #26
Peace, Love & Forgiveness is all a Preacher should be carrying. Not an AR-15. n/t aggiesal Jul 2022 #33
My first response to this guy if I were Beto ... doublethink Jul 2022 #34
He is a pseudo Christian. BigmanPigman Jul 2022 #36
Nothing Christian about his behavior. TNNurse Jul 2022 #39
What a twat Heather MC Jul 2022 #42
Why was he allowed in Shermanator Jul 2022 #45
They like to say it gives weight to a moral argument... Ford_Prefect Jul 2022 #46
One we know for certain, this "preacher" has not been born again in Jesus. patphil Jul 2022 #47
It appears The Bopper Jul 2022 #50
If my father was still alive.......... Scruffy1 Jul 2022 #53
Test Marcuse Jul 2022 #54
I an not intiminated SMoss Jul 2022 #55
Frankly that is Obscene. Good guy or Bad guy? How do you tell? magicguido Aug 2022 #60

randr

(12,409 posts)
1. Proper protocol should be to take the asswipe out with a head shot
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 06:38 PM
Jul 2022

Anyone appearing in public with a military weapon should been seen as an immediate threat

ShazzieB

(16,272 posts)
27. That's absolutely not the point here.
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 08:08 PM
Jul 2022

Threatening to kill anyone, even facetiously (which I'm not sure is the case here at all) is inappropriate here at DU. There are places online where that kind of talk is acceptable. DU is not one of those places.

azureblue

(2,145 posts)
35. correct
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 08:23 PM
Jul 2022

Carrying a military weapon that has sole purpose of killing people, to an intended confrontation, means one thing - the carrier intends to kill with it. Especially in a situation where the target is known to be unarmed. This is not a case of intimidation - it is a nut who intended to kill. And yes, this nut case should have been shot. Face it, if he had been black, or a Democrat at a Republican event, he would definitely be killed at his first appearance.


erronis

(15,181 posts)
43. Would this be different if someone walked in with a grenade or a bomb vest?
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 08:40 PM
Jul 2022

When is it actually OK to disable someone who can easily commit mass murder?

Do we have to wait until the pin on the grenade is pulled and the device explodes?

Or the whimper of the last child has ceased?

I don't know. I'm totally against violence. But apparently a swath of people believe that it's quite all right to threaten, and use.

ShazzieB

(16,272 posts)
22. Oh heck no!
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 08:04 PM
Jul 2022

Absolutely not.

This is DU. Proper protocol here is, first and foremost, to act like an adult.

I hate those weapons as much as anybody, but I hate flippant remarks about killing people at least as much.

azureblue

(2,145 posts)
37. as flippant
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 08:25 PM
Jul 2022

as bringing a weapon of mass murder, to an event, to confront a person you have a beef with.
The days of writing these gun crazies off are long past. They will escalate. Beto is luck to be alive.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,417 posts)
38. There's no reason for anyone to carry that kind of weapon.
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 08:26 PM
Jul 2022

No valid reason at all. I agree, they should be treated like the future active shooters that they probably want to be.

Why wait until they shoot more innocent movie watchers, grocery shoppers, schoolchildren, teachers, church goers, mall walkers, concert goers, coffee drinkers or anyone else just going about their lives not knowing it might be their last few minutes? The only sure way to know is when they start shooting, and that's too fucking late.

Rhiannon12866

(204,731 posts)
56. Well said! This armed individual was an immediate threat to Beto and to everyone in the room
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 09:37 PM
Jul 2022

We've seen too many mass shootings to take chances and this disruptor should have been turned over to law enforcement, removed and disarmed ASAP.

DBoon

(22,340 posts)
4. anyone with such a weapon at a campaign event should be treated as a potential assassin
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 06:50 PM
Jul 2022

should be restrained, have their weapon removed, and arrested.

druidity33

(6,444 posts)
10. YES! What the ever loving fuck?...
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 07:30 PM
Jul 2022

Does Beto have no security at all? Aren't there any local police there? I know it's Texas and all but FUCK! That is completely insane!



Traildogbob

(8,674 posts)
51. It's pathetic
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 09:17 PM
Jul 2022

That this is allowed by their piece of the 2nd they worship, after Gabby Gifford’s assassination attempt. I lean toward treating them as ISIS or Taliban terrorists. I’m for sticking it up his ass, no lube, at gun point. You know, a good guy with a gun to affront that bad guy with a gun. No killing, see I can be nice.

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
59. If the NRA can forbid weapons...
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 12:22 AM
Aug 2022

at their annual convention, IN TEXAS, people should be able to ban them anywhere in Texas.

Why the double freaking standard?

walkingman

(7,580 posts)
5. Take your Jesus and stick him up your ass - you hillbilly. This exactly the reason
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 06:59 PM
Jul 2022

that so many people think that "Christians" are assholes.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
31. I'm more offended by him asking if Beto has accepted Jesus as his savior
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 08:12 PM
Jul 2022

What if a candidate said no? Would he start in on the "You're going to Hell?" I'm not a Christian, and I certainly don't want to be his kind of Christian.

Maraya1969

(22,462 posts)
8. I would so love to ask one of them this question. If they trust Jesus so
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 07:10 PM
Jul 2022

much why do they feel the need to walk around with a weapon of war???

leftieNanner

(15,062 posts)
17. Too bad the video cut off
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 07:59 PM
Jul 2022

I would have liked to hear his answer.

Beto's religious practices and beliefs are his own private business.

A "Lord Jesus Personal Savior" guy with a weapon of war certainly doesn't hear the same gospels I hear in church.

ShazzieB

(16,272 posts)
30. I know, right!
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 08:12 PM
Jul 2022

I was on the edge of my seat waiting to hear Beto's answer (and that dickweed's reaction). I was SO disappointed when it cut off!

COL Mustard

(5,870 posts)
41. People like that are a big part of the reason
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 08:36 PM
Jul 2022

That I haven’t been to church in more than 40 years, and don’t intend to go back ever.

texasfiddler

(1,989 posts)
11. I've been concerned about Beto's safety during this campaign.
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 07:39 PM
Jul 2022

I just want him safe. We have some freaking stupid wackos in this state.

Justice matters.

(6,918 posts)
13. Ask that terrorist if his Jesus walked around with a sling shot
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 07:54 PM
Jul 2022

and a knife...

I don't recall reading anything to that effect

plimsoll

(1,667 posts)
48. There's the episode in the garden where the disciples armed themselves.
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 09:02 PM
Jul 2022

And one of them cut the ear off one of the folks who came to arrest Jesus.

Denvermosaic

(120 posts)
14. No doubt an American Taliban.
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 07:58 PM
Jul 2022

These bible yahoos want to turn the US into a theocracy. And yes if they get their way, I am sure they are willing to murder anyone who refuse to believe in this fantasy book of theirs.

Sky Jewels

(7,014 posts)
20. WWJBADWATIT?
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 08:02 PM
Jul 2022

Who Would Jesus Brandish A Deadly Weapon At To Intimidate Them?

I hope this fucker gets a taste of his own medicine soon.

TexasTowelie

(111,934 posts)
23. Perhaps the offering plate came up a little short today at church?
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 08:05 PM
Jul 2022

I'd be reluctant to contribute if I was a member of that congregation.

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
21. Greg Abbott's Texas.
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 08:03 PM
Jul 2022

Donald Trump's America. Neither are a place I want to live or have my family live.

I had an honest talk to my daughter and son-in-law about leaving this country. They're preparing, just in case. They're getting the grandchildren passports and educating themselves as to where and how to leave this shithole country behind, should it come to that.

They're both professionals and shouldn't have any problem with emigrating practically anywhere they'd like.

This crap has to stop.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
40. You Have The Right Idea
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 08:32 PM
Jul 2022

There are those who say that it's cowardly to leave America, and we should stay and fight. I feel the opposite.

A day does not go by where I'm not ashamed to be an American. I do not see that changing anytime in the near or distant future. In fact, I believe it will only get worse from here.

The final nail will be if the DOJ lets TFG and his buddies escape unscathed. I'll believe he's going to be indicted when it happens, and not a second before.

I'd much prefer to live in a country where every single day isn't a struggle to protect what remnants are left of a former Democracy. I've had enough of being Charlie Brown trying to kick Lucy's football. America has chosen it's path, and it's a worldwide embarrassment.

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
58. I'd like to live in a country.....
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 12:16 AM
Aug 2022

where there aren't any freaking guns and no one is shoving a bible in your face 24/7/365.

I can respect people's need for religion as long as they respect my need to do without it.

The damned guns.....I'm immovable on that point. This country has a sickness about their need to own as many machines as possible which project hot lead at 3200 ft/sec. toward human beings. That is a sickness and they're pushed on people like a pusher's heroin.

That I cannot abide.

BBbats

(89 posts)
57. It is not cowardly!
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 09:38 PM
Jul 2022

It's a smart move to leave the USA now if you can & have the skills or/and money to leave.
Especially if you have children.
I don't see the situation here improving. Civil war is not far fetched. If the Repub's do not get the popular vote they will out & out do everything possible to destroy it. They are putting their followers on the election boards in the key states. They will refuse to certify. This fall the Supreme Court is hearing the Moore v. Harper case. This will give the Repub's the legal authority to steal elections. Sure,it's been thrown out many times before but I bet this time it will go right through with the proverbial flying colors. Redistricting,gerrymandering,blah,blah,blah. They will pull out all the stops.
I would leave if I could. I'm semi retired & dependent on SS although I still do some part time work.Social Security will be on the chopping block. They'll kill it in a heartbeat. I don't have the money or skills to leave. Nevertheless I'm going to get my passport renewed.I think people are going to want to bail out really quickly. The shit is going to hit the fan.We're gonna see a real shitstorm the next Presidential election & god knows what if the Repub's don't win/
I'd leave if I could!

AverageOldGuy

(1,510 posts)
24. What Would Jesus Do?
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 08:06 PM
Jul 2022

No doubt Jesus would show up at a Beto rally with an AR-15 slung over his shoulder and a pistol strapped on his hip.


PJMcK

(21,995 posts)
25. This preacher clearly doesn't know Jesus' teachings
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 08:07 PM
Jul 2022

"Turn the other cheek" seems to have been forgotten by this hypocrite.

Jesus was the ultimate pacifist. Too many of today's so-called "Christians" are caricatures and heretics. This jackass is the perfect example.

housecat

(3,121 posts)
26. Rather than waste his time on this kind of crowd, maybe Beto could vet the audiences. Only go where
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 08:07 PM
Jul 2022

people want to listen and ask questions and where there is a chance that they will vote for him.

doublethink

(6,818 posts)
34. My first response to this guy if I were Beto ...
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 08:17 PM
Jul 2022

would of been 'JESUS CHRIST' ... like really? I would not have givin this guy the time of day. Some sick freaking people out there. Wow. SMH.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
39. Nothing Christian about his behavior.
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 08:31 PM
Jul 2022

I prefer fraud or fake over pseudo. Or lying asshole...whatever you prefer.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
42. What a twat
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 08:36 PM
Jul 2022

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Hey I'm just gonna hold this gun and ask you if you believe in my God. no pressure🙄
Someone should ask that man where's the scripture that said Jesus was walking around with an AR15 in his hand preaching about love and peace

patphil

(6,150 posts)
47. One we know for certain, this "preacher" has not been born again in Jesus.
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 09:01 PM
Jul 2022

More likely born again in Satan.

The Bopper

(183 posts)
50. It appears
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 09:11 PM
Jul 2022

Anyone can call themselves a “preacher” apparently he went to Jim Jones theology class. When America “was great “, so-called “preachers “ weren’t called preachers, they were called nutbags. Wondering what “scripture “ says you can kill anyone you just don’t agree with?

Scruffy1

(3,252 posts)
53. If my father was still alive..........
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 09:24 PM
Jul 2022

He would have stripped him of his guns and had him out the door in a heartbeat. I have seen him do it. I've done it once, but I was not up to speed with his infantry skills. Miss the old Captain. He loved children and always stood up for the underdog. A former infantry company commander whose company saw over a 70% casualty rate through no fault of his own. He knew this kind of menacing behavior was unacceptable. By the way, Texas banned the carrying all weapons, including knives back in the 1870"s, So all the bullshit
you see on TV and in the movies is just that.

SMoss

(112 posts)
55. I an not intiminated
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 09:26 PM
Jul 2022

The Repubs believe that liberals are afraid of guns. I am a gun owning Liberal. I am a hunter, and precision target shooter. I don't need a 20 round magazine. I am not intiminated.
I have no use for modern military guns, only good for killing people and using up a lot of ammo fast. I am a lover, not a fighter. However I can be an effective fighter if necessary.

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