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[madaboutharry]

1. When you really think about it,

that list can apply to most fundamental versions of any religion.

[Oceanic]

2. Not really true

Mormons take religious belief to even wackier limits.

Not to say that there aren't fine Mormons, but most of them are practicing Christian heart stuff.

[heaven05]

13. what????

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very misinformed. They are racist, is that christlike heart stuff? They are homophobic and extremely sexist. Christlike, right? And they are a cult with nothing biblical, old or new testament about them. Yeah they take bits and pieces from christianity and even mention jesus but the context in which they do is very wacky indeed. Let me also make one thing perfectly clear. I don't care what religion any one person may have faith in. Period. But I do care when that religion is used to make one person feel superior to another because of race, sexual orientation and gender. If it is violent, it is not a religion. It is an earthly agenda perpetrated by individuals with no good in mind. If I have to believe or end up in some indescribable place of eternal pain and misery, it is not very loving of the human being by a god with a universe this huge. I sometimes look into space with my telescope and I just can't believe that god could be that small minded. I do hope for balance one day to be brought to the human condition and the evil in the human heart changed. Big hope but I do hope. The evil that humans have perpetrated in the name of god is a sad commentary on some type of creator supposedly guiding these individuals and may they and all other evil doers get their comeuppance. In the mean time I take the best that I can find in all religions and try to hold on to that while dealing with this life.

[Smilo]

19. The Mormons I have met have been really nice until

you say you are not interested and don't want to know about their "religion". Then they show how they don't practice any heart stuff towards those who don't agree with their "religion".

[Armin-A]

26. Read the Quran, Bible any religious text

Interpret every word literally, and force it onto others. Then tell me how madaboutharry statement isn't true.

[heaven05]

12. yeah

especially number 4. Used to justify slavery, yet to be on top was never mentioned to the slaves cause someone was already on top. Guess who? Yeah most religions are only interested in controlling people. There is NOTHING christlike about the amerikkkan religious system/business.

[Armin-A]

27. Matthew 5:17

Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn't the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament.

[Thekaspervote]

4. One more reason.... They have a VERY high suicide rate!!!

[The CCC]

7. They have a VERY high suicide rate!!!

http://en.fairmormon.org/Utah/Statistical_claims/Suicide_rate_among_Mormons

[rgbecker]

9. Good set up for CCC below....

By not backing up what you post with a link, you have very carefully opened up an opportunity for CCC to post his link and refute your claim without the slightest bit of work. Meanwhile, I think I've learned too much about suicide in Utah and the other red states. It's almost like the two of you are working together to bring truth and justice to DU.

[The CCC]

5. This woman lists 6 powerful reasons why she is no longer a Mormon

This woman is an idiot.

[hobbit709]

6. Oh really??

[rgbecker]

8. We're lucky on DU to have a lot of different opinions...but

To call this women an idiot without giving one sentence to back up your claim shows why you may in fact be brainwashed yourself. She carefully lays out her points and most of the time qualifies what she says by saying it is her opinion and feelings about the church and others, apparently including her family, may have different ideas. You, on the other hand, seem to think that what you say goes without any qualifiers.

[RC]

10. That woman comes across as quite intelligent to me.

She got things figured out as a kid, in the face of indoctrination. That is more than most adults can do.

[L0oniX]

15. DU Search "The CCC" ...I smell a mormon troll.

[plethoro]

16. This woman was exceptional, and she told it the way it is. I won't even let Mormons on

my front porch anymore. Have you lost your guiding planet or something?

[gejohnston]

21. hardly,

As a kid I went to Mormon church and Primary (Dad) and Methodist church (Mom). Her reasons are probably more sound than mine.
I just like coffee, so my reason makes me an idiot.

[Heathen57]

23. Sorry, but if there is an idiot in this

conversation, it is NOT Laci. This woman graduated HS @16, and Completed a Bachelors at 21. Anyone who was getting high marks in pre-law when they are 17-18 is not an idiot.

If you could come up with reasons that she is wrong, I would love to hear them. She was born into that religion, thus would know and understand their culture. Personally, as an atheist, I find all the magical, supernatural stuff whacky in all religions, but these followers are way out there as far as modern day knowledge goes.

Please back up your claim.

[NoMoreWarNow]

25. Really, I think she is awesome and clearly very intelligent

Have a nice day!

[heaven05]

11. very

important. Those calling her an idiot should really look at themselves. What is it her voice, delivery? She is quite intelligent and courageous. Unlike those calling her names. You go girl! Show me what romdippy is ALL about,

[Jack Rabbit]

14. May I buy you a cup of coffee, Miss?

??

[cprise]

17. The Mormon church receives a great deal of forbearance

from Democrats and progressives these days. If the LDS church were 1/10 the size it is today, they would be mercilessly attacking Romney and other prominent Mormons as depraved cultists.

The dirt really should have come out when Bishop Romney ran for office in Massachusetts saying "I will do and say anything to become President". But what we got instead was extreme political correctness.

I know people who were excommunicated from Baptist, fundamentalist and Mormon churches. But it is only the Mormon church that seems to instill terror in its subjects at the prospect of this happening; and if they don't feel terror they will feel intimidation.

[Sivafae]

20. From my own personal experience, they do NOT like deviance of any sort.

My mom, from a long line of Mormons, married my dad, a Jew. When my maternal grandfather died, he didn't claim me as a descendant of his.

[UtahLib]

24. You mean what might be deviant based on their superior judgement, right? nt

[UtahLib]

18. I am offended by someone calling her an idiot

Do you call her that because she is a woman with an opinion? Maybe you should indulge in a little introspection.

She barely scraped the surface of what many (exmormons and others) find objectionable about the church.

The major objective of the church can be easily determined. Every mormon is taught throughout their entire lives to believe that the church of Latter Day Saints is God's only true church on this earth and that one cannot attain the Celestial Kingdom (the highest level of heaven) unless you accept those teachings and abide by all the rules set up to achieve that goal.

One of those rules is to pay a full tithe of 10% of your wages before your money can be directed anywhere else. That may not seem terribly unreasonable until you take into consideration that if your tithe is not current, you cannot participate in temple ceremonies which is a requirement in order to reach the highest level of heaven. Thus, the very fate of your soul depends on whether or not you pay the tithe required by the church.

It's very easy to see how this particular church has become one of the wealthiest in the world and also why the church leaders stress missionary work so strongly. A missionary in the Mormon church has one primary goal - bring as many members into the church as possible. This seems to be different than the goals of missionaries of many other churches, ie. helping the poor, feeding the hungry, teaching the underpriviledged of other nations life saving skills, etc. Also, the more people you bring into the church, the more money the church has to invest in many other areas.

[gejohnston]

22. to baptize dead people in beautiful fonts

golden bovine, how ummmmmmm you know the Exodus story.
http://thetrumpetstone.blogspot.com/2011/01/lds-temple-baptismal-font-styles.html

[Ohio Joe]

28. Wow... That is pretty outstanding

Well said and well reasoned