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Rhiannon12866

(255,517 posts)
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 12:24 AM Aug 2022

FL Court Rules Teenager Not 'Mature' Enough To Have Abortion - The Last Word - MSNBC



MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell explains why it is “psychotic” for a court to determine that a parentless 16-year-old is not “mature” enough to have an abortion, but is mature enough to be forced to become a mother. Dahlia Lithwick, MSNBC Law and Politics Analyst, discusses the “red flags” in the Florida court decision. - Aired on 08/17/2022.

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Rhiannon12866

(255,517 posts)
4. Absolutely unbelievable!
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 03:46 AM
Aug 2022

A teen is not "mature" enough to endure an abortion - which would allow her to be a teenager again - but "mature" enough to go through pregnancy, endure giving birth and raise a(nother) child??!

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
5. The Subversive 6 disregarded the Constitution, precedent, and logic to further extremist ideology.
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 04:27 AM
Aug 2022

The disruption to the legal system will continue for a generation. The cruelty inflicted on women and girls is incalculable.

Roe, Roe, Roe your vote
against theocracy!
Republicans revoke your rights
and kill democracy!

Rhiannon12866

(255,517 posts)
6. Since this horrific ruling, it seems like every day there's another tragic story
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 04:33 AM
Aug 2022

And those are only the ones we hear about - so many women including young girls - are suffering unnecessarily...

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
7. There will be scammers and tragedies we never hear about
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 04:59 AM
Aug 2022

Think of the evil that comes forth with illegal vices. There will be scammers who will take advantage of the oppressed, desperate women and girls.

This extreme court's ruling cannot be left to stand. We have to take the House and Senate and provide national relief from the radicalized Republican party's headlong race to deadly theocracy.

Rhiannon12866

(255,517 posts)
8. Lawrence O'Donnell's issue is that they refuse to admit that this ruling also affects young girls
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 05:14 AM
Aug 2022

SCOTUS speaks as if they're discussing mature women, but as we know from the case of the 10-year-old who made the news, it also affects those we consider children.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
9. Yes, like the 16 y.o. in the video or the 12 y.o. mentioned in another piece
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 05:52 AM
Aug 2022

Anyone capable of becoming pregnant is reduced to being an indentured servant of the state. It defies the prohibition of slavery and indentured servitude of the 13th amendment and the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment, at minimum.

Women are, right now, being forced to carry non-viable fetuses because of the extremist laws in slavery states.

Rhiannon12866

(255,517 posts)
10. That last was my immediate fear as soon as I heard the news about the ruling
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 06:23 AM
Aug 2022

It reminded me of an article that I read written by a candidate at the time of the 2020 election explaining why he was pro-choice. I didn't remember the name of the candidate, but another DUer found it for me, it was by Senator Gary Peters, Democrat from Michigan.

Turns out that in the '80s, he and his wife were expecting a much wanted child. But then something went wrong and the fetus was determined to be non viable. The only solution was to remove it as soon as possible since as it deteriorated, it could kill his wife. But no doctor or hospital would agree to the procedure since it was considered an abortion. His wife became deathly ill, but that didn't make a difference. At the last minute, someone they knew knew someone who finally agreed to the procedure and his wife survived. So this senator had been there and knew first-hand what could happen. So I remembered his story and imagined what could now happen to women who found themselves in the same position throughout the country.

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